Shaman BIS

[Naugrin]

Anyone have a BIS (best in slot) list with buyable items? Would also help a ton if u could make the list with a budget of 55k. Thanks.

[xarzzardorn]

55k - fungi tunic
gl

[burkemi5]

you can't even get 1 "BiS" item for 55k

[Naugrin]

No thanks, Not really interested in a fungi atm. would love a good buyable BIS list tho.

[driz]

project 1999 shaman wiki - http://wiki.project1999.org/index.php/Shaman#Pre-Planar

[Naugrin]

u know, i did look at that first. its kinda off because some of the pre-planar items are better then the kunark items and vice versa. there no total BIS list that i can find. If someone is willing to do some research and find me the best items i can afford for every slot for 55k id be willing to toss a few thousand plat your way.

[Danth]

its kinda off because some of the pre-planar items are better then the kunark items and vice versa. there no total BIS list that i can find.

A 55K price cap for all items prohibits use of 25K-plus truly high-grade items. Also, your shaman's race is important since not all races can wear the same items. Since you want to buy your stuff that also mandates droppable gear, ruling out planar or whatnot. The following items are not strictly best in slot, but most of them will be the best you can do within your quoted budget. My recommendations are as follows:

Ear: Forest loops, with a single Ivandyr's hoop if your race can wear it.
Neck: Ivory Imbued Collar
Head: Totemic helm or Sebilite scale cap if you're an iksar.
Face: Platinum Ruby Veil, or optionally Sebilite Scale Mask if you're an iksar and prefer something with AC.
Fingers: Either platinum jasper rings or platinum fire wedding rings based on your preference for raw wisdom or hit points.
Wrists: runed mithril bracers
Arms: This is a difficult slot owing to a lack of good options. May as well use Jaundiced Bone Vambraces, or whatever you can wear (Sebilite Scale, Kylong, etc) if you're an Iksar.
Hands: Kylong Gauntlets or Jaundiced Bone gauntlets if you don't need the wisdom.
Shoulder: Prayer Shawl
Chest: Ceremonial Iksar chestplate *or* Froglok Scale Chestplate/Sebilite scale coat (SS is iksar only)
Back: Mammoth hide cloak
Legs: Gatorscale leggings.
Waist: Mucilaginous Girdle or FBSS if you really want worn haste (not recommended except with 2HB and even then I'm not sure).
Feet: golden Efreeti Boots
Range: Medcine totem *or* Slime Coated Harpoon (if not in primary) *or* Howling Harpoon (if not in primary)
Shield: Straithbone Shell Shield
Primary: Slime Coated Harpoon, or Howling Harpoon, or Runed Morning Star if you prefer 1HB.

Note for primary/secondary there are some good 2HB options that'll fit within your budget instead like Blight, Hammer of the Scourge or a Granite Face Grinder.

All slots should be obtainable within a 55K budget unless you badly overpay (not my fault if you do). Selecting the more budget-oriented items will result in you spending perhaps half that. These items will provide, depending on specific selections, about 80 to 100 Wisdom as well as sufficient AC to slow-tank stuff into the 50+ range. Regen chestplates are recommended for Shaman since they can convert HP into Mana at will, but are expensive and not strictly mandatory.

Danth

[Droxx]

BIS and budget of 55k does not compute.

[Messianic]

You gotta really define your parameters a bit better. There are so many resources out there that would give you the info you need...

But if I had the choice of a fungi and nothing else vs a full set of awesome gear and a non-regen chestplate, I'm going with the fungi and i'm scrapping together a full set of banded and a cheap gloomwater harpoon or something. That's how crucial the fungi is, especially at low levels.

[Orruar]

Here's a list of the BiS for a shaman looking to max their survivability. With 55k, you can buy maybe 2 or 3 of the cheapest of these. All items can either be purchased or require a group or less to obtain.

Arms - Dusty Rusted Vambraces
Back - Hiero Cloak
Chest - Fungi / Rune Etched Chestplate
Ears - Electrum BS Ears
Face - Enshrouded Veil
Feet - Withered Leather Boots
Fingers - Djarn Ring / Adamantite Band / plat fire wedding rings
Hands - Jarsath Scale Gauntlets
Head - Platinum Tiara
Legs - Jarsath legs or gatorscale legs
Neck - Necklace of Superiority
Shoulders - Obulus Death Shroud
Waist - Bone Clasped Girdle
Wrist - Supple Scale Armband / Withered Leather Wristbands
Primary - Epic
Secondary - Bladestopper / Sarnak Battle Shield
Range - Idol of the Thorned

[phobus]

What level and race?

You've got some good suggestions here, and honestly, if you can afford regen as a shaman you should buy it. No other gear will make as much of a difference in how quickly you kill things.

[Ele]

55k budget?

Fungi + 2x Plat Fire Wedding Rings + Poison Wind Censer + Hooded Black Cloak

[Ephirith]

If you're Iksar just hang out in KC for a while and pick up some Jarsath, some if it is pretty much the best you're going to get until Velious- if you're a min/maxxer I wouldn't recommend Iksar.

Hell, no matter what you are you're probably going to want to pick up the Jarsath bracer, Supple Scale Armband, and Jarsath legs.

[Naugrin]

Would a shield be the best secondary slot item for a shaman or would something like book of obulus be best?

[Protagonist]

project 1999 shaman wiki - http://wiki.project1999.org/index.php/Shaman#Pre-Planar

Wiki keeps getting better and better. Who works on it?

[godbox]

clay guardian sheild>book of ob espesially as bang for your buck.
55k is not alot of money on p99 sooooo ya you wont get much BiS for that.
best game changing item for a sham is JBB hands down. but cant use it til 45 so until then its anything with +hp (lots of cheap items) or fungi and everything else nekked
if you still dont want that then you can get all of this for 55k and ull be pretty strong

Ikky BP
howling harpoon
granite face grinder
FBSS (worth every penny sell it when u ding 40 and stop meeleeing at all but until then with GfG u will bum dps classes out)
2x plat fire wedding ring
black saphire nec (55 55)
hp/mana ears
hooded black cloak
clay guardian shield
GeB
JB arms and hands for AC
black chitin legs

although really i would buy a jbb first chance you get its the best item for a sham until epic and even then I would never sell mine. did 45-49 in 1 8 hour solo session with jbb ^^

[Naugrin]

Primary - Slime Coated Harpoon
Secondary - Clay Guardian Shield
Range - Howling Harpoon
Helm - Sebelite Scale Cap
Chest - Sebelite Scale Coat (can upgrade to regen bp when possible)
Bracers - Runed Mithril Bracers
Leggings - Gatorscale Leggings
Feet - Golden Efreeti Boots
Face - Sebelite Scale Mask
Ears - Black Sapphire Electrum Earring x2
Shoulders - Obulus Death Shoud
Waist - Mucilsginous Girdle
Back - Mammoth Hide Cloak
Hands - Kylong Gauntlets
Neck - Ivory Imbuned Collar
Arms - Sebelite Scale Armguards
Rings - Platinum Jasper or 55 hp rings (havent decided yet)

Look good for a 55k budget? Could something be upgraded with ease?

[dankzilla]

Fungi Tunic is better than any other item you could buy to twink your shaman. BIS for 55k budget is:

Full Banded Armor
Hp/AC Rings
Fungi Tunic

You will have infinite mana with fungi tunic and to buy anything else would get nowhere near the same bang for your buck

[AimAce]

I don't think this person realizes how core fungi + canni is. The regen is game breaking on shaman, as well as necros to an extent.

[Kaym]

Fungi/JBB, nothing else matters.

/thread

[godbox]

1-45 fungi>jbb
45+ jbb>fungi

[Danth]

Jaundiced Bone Bracer is probably beside the point; the original poster has indirectly hinted that his shaman is an Iksar. As for a fungi tunic, I wouldn't want to stick one good item on a character wearing junk everywhere else, either. That's assuming he could even get one for 55K; last time I was in EC they were a good deal more than that.

That list looks pretty good to me, Naugrin. You have a fair amount of wiggle room with Shaman gear because of how HP can be converted into mana, so the class gives more options for gearing than something like a Cleric does.

Danth

[Naugrin]

Thanks Danth, look me up ingame later tonight and ill throw a few thousand plat your way.

[quido]

I would totally wear junk everywhere else if it meant I could sport a fungi tunic. Yeah, it would be better to sport a balanced setup in addition to a fungi tunic, but it is really difficult to advocate added AC/HP/Mana at the cost of 15 regen. In so many of the slots the gear you can get is mediocre anyways.

I would probably advocate a Djarn ring. I know there's this popular opinion that AC is important for shamans, but I feel it is really a tertiary sort of stat in Kunark. I'll probably feel different in Velious, but yeah, I'd trade 5ac for 25hp and 9 agi pretty easy; that agility will probably provide you better mitigation than that AC.

[AimAce]

Dunno why OP won't trust us on the tunic =( I give up. In the end what matters is that OP gets what he likes.

But just one note;Fungis are easily resellable. Low tier gear in the masses isn't. Keep that in mind.

[Naugrin]

Just for anyone who cares, i went ahead and decided to roll troll shaman since iksars get way to many penalties in terms of gear. yes i could of prob got a fungi for 55k and yes it may have been a better option but i dident. I wanted a character that was all purpose, solo, grouping, farming, raiding etc.

Here is the final BIS list i made spending a little more then 38k
Pri - Darksea Harpoon
Secondary - Clay Guardian Shield / Strathbone Shell Shield (one for solo one for groups)
Range - Howling Harpoon
Helm - Jaundiced Bone Helm
Chest - Froglok Scale Chest
Wrist - Runed Mithril Bracers
Leggings - Gatorscale Leggings
Boots - Jaundiced Bone Boots / GEBS (one for solo and one for groups)
Arms - Jaundiced Bone Armguards
Hands - Jaundice Bone Gauntlets
Shoulder - Obulus Death Shroud
Waist - Mucilaginous Girdle
Back - Mammoth Hide Cloak
Face - Platinum Ruby Veil
Ears - Black Sapphire Electrum Earrings
Rings - Platinum Fire Wedding Rings
Neck - Black Sapphire Platinum Necklace

Thanks for all the help.

[Slave]

Pri - Darksea Harpoon
Secondary - Clay Guardian Shield / Strathbone Shell Shield (one for solo one for groups)
Range - Howling Harpoon
Helm - Jaundiced Bone Helm
Chest - Froglok Scale Chest
Wrist - Runed Mithril Bracers
Leggings - Gatorscale Leggings
Boots - Jaundiced Bone Boots / GEBS (one for solo and one for groups)
Arms - Jaundiced Bone Armguards
Hands - Jaundice Bone Gauntlets
Shoulder - Obulus Death Shroud
Waist - Mucilaginous Girdle
Back - Mammoth Hide Cloak
Face - Platinum Ruby Veil
Ears - Black Sapphire Electrum Earrings
Rings - Platinum Fire Wedding Rings
Neck - Black Sapphire Platinum Necklace


Here's my advice, and I tend to gear more defensively for shaman, works wonders for me:

Helm: Kylong Helm is cheap and great.
Secondary: The only time you will ever really need Wisdom is for Alchemy.
Boots: See Secondary
Back: Hooded Black Cloak is basically obligatory here.
Face: A Targishin's Bone Mask will serve you quite well but Platinum Ruby is good too.
Ears: Earring of Essence is more defensive than a BS earring, and cheaper.
Wrist: if you don't use a fungi, you MUST have a JBB here at level 45. MUST!

[Naugrin]

Thx for the suggestions, will sell the GEBs and the shield to help me buy a Ceremonial Iksar BP. Also buying the HBC over Mammoth hide but i think ill keep the hp/mana earrings for now.

Gotta save up for enough plat to afford JBB by lvl 45

[Danth]

Thanks for the offer Naugrin, but you can keep your money. I'd feel like a twit accepting that kind of money for a mere forum opinion.

Troll is a good choice as it gives you more options for gearing; you effectively trade the ability to use sebilite scale for the option to have things like a JBB. You actually have the money to potentially afford that JBB so it's very much worth it.

I didn't mention darksea harpoon earlier since a slime coated harpoon offers similar stats with a slightly better damage ratio (3 less delay), but it's not a large difference and they're basically equivalent. If you plan on soloing a great deal then a 2HB might be worth looking in to; melee will probably consist a fair portion of your damage output. That's why some shamans even go for a haste belt.

I generally favor +mana over +HP for shaman gearing as mana is immediately available while HP must first be converted into mana via cannibalize (which you don't have until 24). In an emergency situation you may not always have time to do that. I can't call HP gearing "wrong"; it's merely a different way of accomplishing the same goal. Of course, with sufficient funds available, just gear for both.

Danth

[Messianic]

No one - especially shamans at the highest levels of the game who have commented in this thread - has even taken the position or given a good explanation why a bunch of random AC and wimpy stats are better than +15 regen.

There's probably a reason for that. But i'll let it go.

[Tecmos Deception]

fungi and i'm scrapping together a full set of banded and a cheap gloomwater harpoon or something. That's how crucial the fungi is, especially at low levels.

[godbox]

for this dudes setup really an ikky will work I essentially did the same gearing as him from 1-60 but ikky instead of froggy bp not sure why he wont listen about gearing *shrug
for anyone reading this thread who does listen gear stats for sham go
regen>HP>AC>STA>mana>agil>wis

[Bruster]

so i am in the same kind of predicament...i am level 43, fully geared with pretty good stuff, and have 60k to spend. not sure if i should go with a fungi, or a jbb and other shit. thoughts?

[Kaym]

for this dudes setup really an ikky will work I essentially did the same gearing as him from 1-60 but ikky instead of froggy bp not sure why he wont listen about gearing *shrug
for anyone reading this thread who does listen gear stats for sham go
regen>HP>AC>STA>mana>agil>wis

Stat weights are really more dependent on the specific situation. Regen is almost always #1, the following stats, however, vary widely based on the situation. For leveling a low shaman, a fungi is first priority and if you spend money on anything before that you're doing it wrong. Period.

EDIT: In the case of the above post though, I'd suggest buying a JBB and doing seafuries to afford the rest of a fungi.

[webrunner5]

Stat weights are really more dependent on the specific situation. Regen is almost always #1, the following stats, however, vary widely based on the situation. For leveling a low shaman, a fungi is first priority and if you spend money on anything before that you're doing it wrong. Period.

EDIT: In the case of the above post though, I'd suggest buying a JBB and doing seafuries to afford the rest of a fungi.

Nice post. A Shaman can self buff, I know its a pain, all of the stats except wisdom. So yeah Fungi #1 item to get.

[Kevynne]

i agree on the fungi as well.
fungi is clutch.

[dankzilla]

Fungi is the number one thing to twink a shaman because it is equivalent to about Flowing Thought 7.5.

15 regen x 10 ticks = 150 hp ==> ~~75 mana

It is an extra 3 Casts of Cannibalize I every minute. It is the difference between keeping two people in your group buffed and keeping everyone in your group buffed while slowing and throwing DoTs in for extra damage too. Adding extra mana to your mana pool means absolutely NOTHING unless you are spending all your time at full mana.

The only acceptable substitute for a Fungi would be Iksar regen BP + JBB. And that is a close call.