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warpatch
08-14-2012, 05:00 PM
Does anyone use poisons? Are they worth the hassle of farming all of the junk to level it up?

Tecmos Deception
08-14-2012, 07:42 PM
Whether it is worth it or not depends on what kind of value you attach to it, and I'm not saying that to be a smartass.

Poisons are generally thought of as "not worth it" by people who are only thinking about them as a DPS boost or as something they can use on a dragon or a god for an extra edge.

But some of the poisons are incredibly useful if you ever find yourself wanting to solo or small group a challenging fight. Slow and snare, primarily.

And they are hella fun to use on players in duels. 1+ minute long blind poison? Lol.


Imo poisons are just generally cool. Worth it for that alone.

warpatch
08-14-2012, 09:09 PM
Well I think you said just enough to make me want to try it out. I'd love to try and solo a bit.

Tecmos Deception
08-14-2012, 10:17 PM
They aren't really a tool that makes you into a soloer, but they do give you enough of a force multiplier to pull off fights that you couldn't handle without poisons.

You might be able to sneak over to the skeletal warlord who is wielding a tstaff, but you know that he and his skeletal buddy would kill you before you could drop the warlord. You MIGHT be able to kill him solo if you use locustlure to take less damage, but who knows if it is going to proc right away or not at all? A 50% slow poison is going to land more often than not and could be the tipping factor in you killing the warlord and looting the staff or not.

Can do similar things with the snare poisons and intimidation.

If you have the pp to spare, you can actually get pretty significant DPS boosts in any given fight by leading off with one of the dd or dot poisons.

Stat poisons? Eh, who knows exactly how much they help.


They are hard enough to gather the mats for and/or expensive enough that you aren't going to be putting a poison on your weapon on a regular basis in an xp group. And they aren't powerful enough that even a rich person who plays 24/7 is going to go try to solo their rogue to 60 just because they have an unlimited supply of poisons. But they have a cool factor imo, and they CAN be very useful in the right situations.

webrunner5
08-15-2012, 06:04 AM
You can go from being Bad Ass, to Really Bad Ass with poisons.

falkun
08-15-2012, 07:39 AM
Wasn't the rogue botb decided by judicious poison usage?

MaksimMazor
08-15-2012, 10:17 AM
Or you could solo pull warlord with t staff to ent to your shaman friend. :)

Tecmos Deception
08-15-2012, 10:27 AM
Or you could solo pull warlord with t staff to ent to your shaman friend. :)

Is this possible for a rogue, assuming that everything is popped?

falkun
08-15-2012, 11:05 AM
That solo pull stuff is a bug that needs to be fixed

The only bug is that projectiles are instant instead of having a travel time. But that's a server issue that cannot be resolved easily (if at all). How is it a bug?

For reference: solo pulling is "working as intended."
I got it all figured out and working pretty sweet. So hopefully it will go out the next time the beta server is patched.

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fadetree
08-15-2012, 01:34 PM
The only bug is that projectiles are instant instead of having a travel time. But that's a server issue that cannot be resolved easily (if at all). How is it a bug?

For reference: solo pulling is "working as intended."

Well, I suppose I'd have to look into the code for that one...puzzles me a bit though what exactly about the architecture would preclude setting up travel time for missiles. Anyone have any idea what the problem is? Is it some kind of client side function that's not been decoded properly or is it just that the server side isn't handling it?

Messianic
08-15-2012, 02:11 PM
That solo pull stuff is a bug that needs to be fixed

If you're talking about sneak pulling, it's definitely working as intended (Falk did the legwork and got us the Haynar post...).

falkun
08-15-2012, 02:18 PM
If you're talking about sneak pulling, it's definitely working as intended (Falk did the legwork and got us the Haynar post...).

Aye, by "solo pulling" in my post, I mean sneak/CoS/insta-invis pulling.