Delearium

[Akinero]

He's a 54 bard in the guild "The Warlords". I just want to make it known what kind of player this guy is. Im a little late posting this but have been busy, anyway, I was in qeynos hills last Wednesday night camping hadden for fishbone earring and was the only one in zone. Been sitting here for about 3 hours at this point when he showed up anon in zone about the time hadden decided to pop, he was out of sight on a hill and assuming he had him on timer cause as soon as he popped he had him before i could even stand up. Long story short he straight up Ks'd me after the whole ordeal i respectively asked him if he would like to comment on that and he responded with he wanted to fuck with me and i should have a nice day. I got a GM involved and he agrees with my side of the story however he could not prove who was there first, I do have a few pics of the aftermath that I cant attach atm. So since there was no penalty or reprimanding I figured Id get his name out there and bring his style of play to everyones attention. I dont know if "The Warlords" tolerate such behavior from their guild members but I feel as though this server has a small community of veteran players and really think we can do without these types. I appreciate and thank all who read this and hopefully we can do something about people like Delearium. With no consequence were letting these players know its ok to ks. Big shout out to the gm who got involved with his quick response, cant remember his name but thanks.

[Autotune]

He's a 54 bard in the guild "The Warlords". I just want to make it known what kind of player this guy is. Im a little late posting this but have been busy, anyway, I was in qeynos hills last Wednesday night camping hadden for fishbone earring and was the only one in zone. Been sitting here for about 3 hours at this point when he showed up anon in zone about the time hadden decided to pop, he was out of sight on a hill and assuming he had him on timer cause as soon as he popped he had him before i could even stand up. Long story short he straight up Ks'd me after the whole ordeal i respectively asked him if he would like to comment on that and he responded with he wanted to fuck with me and i should have a nice day. I got a GM involved and he agrees with my side of the story however he could not prove who was there first, I do have a few pics of the aftermath that I cant attach atm. So since there was no penalty or reprimanding I figured Id get his name out there and bring his style of play to everyones attention. I dont know if "The Warlords" tolerate such behavior from their guild members but I feel as though this server has a small community of veteran players and really think we can do without these types. I appreciate and thank all who read this and hopefully we can do something about people like Delearium. With no consequence were letting these players know its ok to ks. Big shout out to the gm who got involved with his quick response, cant remember his name but thanks.

should have posted in RnF, with pictures and funny quips.

[Cippofra]

Amusing. He admits to it and the gm's still don't care.

[Nordenwatch]

"could not prove who was there first" seems pretty retarded, can't GMs check this kind of stuff ... very easily?

[rafaone]

I know how piss you off to lose a camp, and more if you have been there for 3 hours or more, by a guy of this kind. Deffinitely, there are people like that Delearium in this server wh doesnt follow rules or watherver, scum. Sorry u didnt made any SC before haden pop to prove u were there though ....

[Ambrotos]

No, we don't have access to see who arrived at what zone or location. We have encounter logs of npcs being killed.

I also don't see any Hadden being KSed by Delearium.

Are you Varsoon who engaged Hadden 32 seconds after the bard engaged?

[mitic]

i would have pked and corpsecamped him instead of calling a gm!

oh wait, wrong forum section ....

[Clark]

He's a 54 bard in the guild "The Warlords". I just want to make it known what kind of player this guy is. Im a little late posting this but have been busy, anyway, I was in qeynos hills last Wednesday night camping hadden for fishbone earring and was the only one in zone. Been sitting here for about 3 hours at this point when he showed up anon in zone about the time hadden decided to pop, he was out of sight on a hill and assuming he had him on timer cause as soon as he popped he had him before i could even stand up. Long story short he straight up Ks'd me after the whole ordeal i respectively asked him if he would like to comment on that and he responded with he wanted to fuck with me and i should have a nice day. I got a GM involved and he agrees with my side of the story however he could not prove who was there first, I do have a few pics of the aftermath that I cant attach atm. So since there was no penalty or reprimanding I figured Id get his name out there and bring his style of play to everyones attention. I dont know if "The Warlords" tolerate such behavior from their guild members but I feel as though this server has a small community of veteran players and really think we can do without these types. I appreciate and thank all who read this and hopefully we can do something about people like Delearium. With no consequence were letting these players know its ok to ks. Big shout out to the gm who got involved with his quick response, cant remember his name but thanks.

You started in November 09 and are this concerned about a fishbone earring? :l Not nice of him to do that to you though.

[Boilon]

my guess would be the bard pulled him away from the OP and couldn't really engage him (or maybe bard was kiting him around) hence the delay in engagement if Ambrotos says 32s. Dickish move yeah, but that's Everquest... totally against the named camp rules I'm pretty sure

[Itap]

You started in November 09 and are this concerned about a fishbone earring? :l Not nice of him to do that to you though.

I think it's about the principle, not the actual worth of the item

[falkun]

Bard, druid, and Ranger (default setting) Track display trackable entities by their spawn order, with newest at the top. An SS of yourself lower on the spawn list than the offender would show who was in the zone longer. Periodic time stamped SS (/time) would show how LONG you've been in the zone. But this is a lot of work for a fishbone earring.

[Rizher]

quote - "he had him on timer cause as soon as he popped he had him before I could even stand up."

FTE and rightfull guy got the kill as far as I can tell from what you are saying. What's next? BDA says they were camping trak and TMO showed up just as he spawned and took him from them!

OMG da nerve.

Get over it.

[Ravager]

For camps like that I always take a SS with me at the camp in 3rd person view and a /who sandwiched between time stamps. But I'm paranoid about something like this happening to me.

[Ravager]

quote - "he had him on timer cause as soon as he popped he had him before I could even stand up."

FTE and rightfull guy got the kill as far as I can tell from what you are saying. What's next? BDA says they were camping trak and TMO showed up just as he spawned and took him from them!

OMG da nerve.

Get over it.

Hadden is not a raid mob. And more often than not about a half dozen people know Hadden's timer at any given time.

[India]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2653 Might have been a dickish move but according to the stated rules he was within his rights to pull the mob

[Ravager]

2. Just because you know the timer a mob's spawn does NOT mean you are entitled to the camp. Examples include Ishva mal, Estrella, and Undertow. I have seen too many threads about ishva mal in particular where there is a person there at the camp and someone comes and either KS's the spawn or charms the mob to bring it somewhere else etc claiming it was theirs due to it being on timer. If you are trying to timer a spawn and you arrive and someone else is there, too bad, you should have been there earlier.

If OP is honest about being there first, then no, Bard was not within rights to pull mob.

[India]

And #5 states:

5. Outdoor pathing mobs are not campable unless you are sitting at the spawn point and able to engage it instantly. Outdoor mobs on fast respawn such as HG and spectres, if you cannot engage immediately you do not hold the camp. Please try and share with fellow players in these instances.

[Boilon]

he is not an outdoor pathing mob, he is a static spawn at the lake. OP says he was there at the spawn point. There is only one of him not many. #5 does not apply to Hadden

[India]

Honestly I think more "evidence" is needed and if he was indeed on the spawn point and the bard saw him it was a dick move. Again though, based on the rules if he was on the spawn point, he should have "engaged instantly" - else how was the other guy able to engage first and full 32 seconds ahead of the camper?

Also, I took the second sentence in #5 as an extension of the first sentence. Something like "In addition, outdoor mobs..."

[Boilon]

The only thing I can think of about the 32s ahead of the OP, was that the bard pulled it away from him somehow. Maybe there will be those screenshots to show ;)

[SirAlvarex]

Zomg...this is the rules lawyering Rogean was worried about. And we're getting it on a freaking Hadden spawn.

If someones at a spawn and camping it, don't be a dick and pull it. If you arrive at the camp and someone is just sitting there staring at the mob, send a tell and ask if they're camping it.

I don't know if what the OP says is true, but either way the FTE BS on a solo camp is ridiculous if someone has been sitting on it.

[Xadion]

Aint everything just FTE? to camp something you have to be on top of spawn / agro range and get FTE.... obviously if a bard ran up and got him before you could stand up and attack him, you where too far away from the camp/mob and did not get FTE

[SirAlvarex]

FTE is supposed to be the tie-breaker when a GM has to intervene. It was that indistinguishable line that could be drawn so that a GM didn't appear to be favoring one guild over the other. That is the purpose Rogean alluded to in the Raid changes thread.

The rule that's more important than FTE? Don't be a dick. FTE has gone from a tie-breaker to the rule that governs all.

[Akinero]

No, we don't have access to see who arrived at what zone or location. We have encounter logs of npcs being killed.

I also don't see any Hadden being KSed by Delearium.

Are you Varsoon who engaged Hadden 32 seconds after the bard engaged?
No, we don't have access to see who arrived at what zone or location. We have encounter logs of npcs being killed.

I also don't see any Hadden being KSed by Delearium.

Are you Varsoon who engaged Hadden 32 seconds after the bard engaged?

To clear things up more. Yes ambrotos that is my toon and apologize for being absent in this post but i travel for work. I was sitting across from the fire where hadden spawns when Delearium pulled him up over the hill so i feel like 30 seconds is sufficient enough time to run after him and finally get a spell off after the first one was out of range for me to land(notice txt in pic). I attached some pics of what i managed to take and yes they are from my phone, comp wouldnt take a screenshot. As you can see from the one, I was ready at the spawn but being completely thrown off guard and flustered as to what was happening i targeted my pet and told him to attack himself, after quick target change I began casting Engulf darkness which got interrupted due to delearium pulling him over the hill and out of range. The other pics is his death txt which happened down by the road, unfortunatly i didnt snap pics til i went back to the spawn and scrolled txt up. Last one is of me being unable to loot and me asking him for his comments with his response explaining his actions are based on the fact my name is Varsoon. Which if that was a problem I think the gms would have changed my name long ago considering Ive talked to many of them at various times, from rez's to ec tunnel run ins. I have no bad feelings to the GM though, he tried to help and I understand its something small and insignificant compared to majority of the petitions you guys get but its the principal of the matter for me.Im usually a casual quiet player but this just set me off, after taking a years break or so and trying to rebuild my account this is what I come back to. All I can do is get this guys name out there for the community. Also, thanks for the support and understanding from most of you all.

[Knightt]

this is a tough case imo

[Nepenthe]

Delearium is no longer a member of The Warlords.

[kaustik]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?p=748199#post748199

I have a lot of things to say in a lot of time and places. Atleast I chose to to follow the "rules". :D

[Camulet]

Not a tough case imo.

You run to a spawn and someone is sat there camping it, you walk away...simple.

Also just the comment from the guy in /tell says all you need to know. He is an immature kid.

[Vladigan]

So, how much more of being a dick is required before people like this get punished. The tell he send to the OP would be enough for me to suspend his account for 2 weeks and tell him to be more polite in the future or face further disciplinary action...

Honestly, we need to start addressing people like this or else they just continue doing what they do...