Velious Nerf List

[Vadd]

What items will everyone be trying to get their hands on before the Nerfs?

[Silo69]

sword of 1000 truths

[Kender]

good luck. people would prefer to be greedy and selfish than disclose this sort of information...

but you can guarentee there will be a few trying to get the specials from Sleepers Tomb before some guild decides it's time to remove them from the game by killing the 4 warders

[Netherzul]

^^ this will likely never happen on P99, especially considering sleeper will never be killable on p99 unless the staff deems otherwise. If he remains un-killable, the staff allowing the warders to be killed and the sleeper awoken would likely remove every raider on p99 minus TMO thus, killing the server

[quido]

Yeah I've been hearing for a year now how the server would die unless something was done about TMO.

[Reiker000]

^^ this will likely never happen on P99, especially considering sleeper will never be killable on p99 unless the staff deems otherwise. If he remains un-killable, the staff allowing the warders to be killed and the sleeper awoken would likely remove every raider on p99 minus TMO thus, killing the server

wut?

Warders aren't hard, only Ventani is and Avatar of War is harder than him. All 4 warders dead = sleeper awakens & no more warders. You don't need to kill Kerafyrm to cockblock warders. Ppl will just leave the first warder up all the time because his loot is awful.

[Knightt]

Yeah I've been hearing for a year now how the server would die unless something was done about TMO.


Project 1999
Status:
Players: UP
617
.:: Server Info ::.
looks ok to me ..........

[Grahm]

Project 1999
Status:
Players: UP
617
.:: Server Info ::.
looks ok to me ..........

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[Knightt]

lol no sarcasm i think 600 is nice on server for sure

[Calabee]

those beads from wakening lands, holger elder beads or whatever, expect every goddamned single monk to be there 24/7

[Silo69]

those beads from wakening lands, holger elder beads or whatever, expect every goddamned single monk to be there 24/7

right click werewolf wolf form lute of howler bard only :D

[Silo69]

right click werewolf wolf form lute of howler bard only :D

barbarian flayed skin mask, clicky Barb

gnome clicky mask

PRIMAL

[Calabee]

uuuh, lute of the howler and flayed barbarian masks dont get nerfed.. primal turns into something else, same proc, gnome masks gets replaced by dwarf mask, those two you are semi-right

[Zeelot]

BFG (breezeboots frigid gnasher)- Rare groundspawn got taken out pretty early on

[HeallunRumblebelly]

uuuh, lute of the howler and flayed barbarian masks dont get nerfed.. primal turns into something else, same proc, gnome masks gets replaced by dwarf mask, those two you are semi-right

prismatics don't come in til way later, like late luclin / pop late.

[Extunarian]

BFG (breezeboots frigid gnasher)- Rare groundspawn got taken out pretty early on

I have read people talking about completing the quest as late as November, 2001... 11 months after Velious.

I have yet to find any definitive date for when the plank stopped spawning or the NPC dialogue was altered.

[Droog007]

At some point the warders started spawning again, sans Kerafyrm... I'm not sure when, but I never laid eyes on one until they were 1-groupable (yay dwarf mask). Seems well within the scope of P1999 for them to start spawning again... simply because it's Velious content with Velious loot... was there ever a lore explanation for this?

[Belz]

BFG (breezeboots frigid gnasher)- Rare groundspawn got taken out pretty early on

spawns on the ground? the bow itself? loc?

[bizzum]

Item for the quest is a rare groundspawn.

[pasi]

This thread has been going on for so long without anyone mentioning the greatest item in EQ's history:

Mothafuckin' Blamsticks.

Gonna get a Blamstick on every character I can

[ArumTP]

Rogean himself said BFG would be available for a limited period of time. He was in EC showing it off and made mention of it.

[Treats]

At some point the warders started spawning again, sans Kerafyrm... I'm not sure when, but I never laid eyes on one until they were 1-groupable (yay dwarf mask). Seems well within the scope of P1999 for them to start spawning again... simply because it's Velious content with Velious loot... was there ever a lore explanation for this?

I don't think some of you realize it is not that easy.

It is not Velious content with Velious loot, it was added in Planes of Power.

Sleeper's Tomb was revamped with a bunch of different quests/items etc.

(You want a revamped ST? Then you are going to get a revamped Skyshrine too.)

Some of these items have spells THAT WERE NOT AVAILABLE in the Velious era.

Custom content possibly, but anything done to ST after Kerafyrm is awakened in the regular Velious era will not happen.

[Darian]

Pretty sure Circlet of Shadow/s nerf went in during Velious as well

[Muleworth]

I imagine the people that moved to the Mac server will come back to kill the final warder just for the massive waves of tears it would obviously cause, before retreating to their server.

Hilarious there's really nothing anyone can do about it, TMO's ultimate reckoning.

[Ele]

I imagine the people that moved to the Mac server will come back to kill the final warder just for the massive waves of tears it would obviously cause, before retreating to their server.

Hilarious there's really nothing anyone can do about it, TMO's ultimate reckoning.

They would need to key up first, and they are soft since they've been using AA and Luclin/PoP buffs.

[WAR4SALE]

All these items will be permacamped form the first minute of velious release.

Good luck trying to get some though.

we know, and more people will know where to be upon release if you would share you "knowledge of nerfs/removed items" with us.

[Grahm]

im not 100% sure where or when this item was...but know it had 2 do with velious and only a handful of people got them cause they were so OP and noone knew the quest. but was a weapon that looked like a rake.

could also being making this up 100% lots of drugs running thru the body atm

[Xadion]

That would be the BFG... and its not really a rare ground spawn...just kinda...it can spawn all over the place (atleast like 5 diff spots from what I can tell..) and if it was up in a odd location people took awhile to grab it and then it repop in a "known" location...

as for how long it was in game, yeah almost a year :-P

Elder beads are awesome, again in game like a year.

[Handull]

are we ever going to see PoM changed on this server? i don't really know anything about post kunark content, but from what I can gather that zone was changed a lot on live

[Safon]

What mob dropped the elder beads?

[cyryllis]

we shouldnt get PoM changed on this server, since it wasnt changed until later on in the eq timeline.

thank god, because the original PoM was amazing (when the only entrance was in NToV) before they made it a total fail raid zone

[Droog007]

I don't think some of you realize it is not that easy.

It is not Velious content with Velious loot, it was added in Planes of Power.

Sleeper's Tomb was revamped with a bunch of different quests/items etc.

(You want a revamped ST? Then you are going to get a revamped Skyshrine too.)

Some of these items have spells THAT WERE NOT AVAILABLE in the Velious era.

Custom content possibly, but anything done to ST after Kerafyrm is awakened in the regular Velious era will not happen.

I don't know that much about the ST "revamp". I raided ST before that went in... I think it was probably post-awakening, but my guild was only able to do the mini-bosses anyway. However - I did go in much, much later to kill warders with a small strike team. The loot all seemed to be ancient garbage - quest junk for Plane of Mischief and so forth. I don't think the revamp did much to these particular loot tables - am I wrong?

All I'm saying is... if there was an official explanation for why the warders started spawning again post-awakening, it was probably pretty thin. Why make them go away in the first place? Maybe give 'em a month paid vacay after Kerafyrm has his little tantrum.

[Tuffpuppy]

What mob dropped the elder beads?

Holgresh Elders in Wakening Lands.

[Safon]

Holgresh Elders in Wakening Lands.

Are they a static spawn? Something Necros can solo camp?

[pasi]

HEBs are campable. Theres wandering spawns, but theres a cave with 8 (I Think) static spawns. They were a fairly rare drop on live, I think something like 3-4 hours average clearing the cave for a pair. And yeah, 60 necros can solo the camp.

[Ferok]

I don't know that much about the ST "revamp". I raided ST before that went in... I think it was probably post-awakening, but my guild was only able to do the mini-bosses anyway. However - I did go in much, much later to kill warders with a small strike team. The loot all seemed to be ancient garbage - quest junk for Plane of Mischief and so forth. I don't think the revamp did much to these particular loot tables - am I wrong?

All I'm saying is... if there was an official explanation for why the warders started spawning again post-awakening, it was probably pretty thin. Why make them go away in the first place? Maybe give 'em a month paid vacay after Kerafyrm has his little tantrum.

There was a revamp early PoP/late Luclin that removed "Primal" weapons and replaced it with "Ancient Prismatic" weapons or something to that effect. It also re-added dragons, but their loot wasn't particularly out-of-scale for Velious. It was just different than the Warders.

Edit: Changes were made just a few months before PoP according to post dates on alla's:
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=16074

[pasi]

The ST Revamp loot is quite a bit better than the original ST loot (minus Shroud and SoD, but plus a bunch of stuff); however, it's just top of the line Velious stuff - not even Luclin Raid quality.

[Ferok]

The ST Revamp loot is quite a bit better than the original ST loot (minus Shroud and SoD, but plus a bunch of stuff); however, it's just top of the line Velious stuff - not even Luclin Raid quality.

You're right, I had forgotten how bad the original warder loot was. It's WToV loot.

The Ancient dragon loot was more like King-loot (and quests).

Either way, nothing game breaking. The original ST was meant to be used as a crutch to get past the toughest Velious targets. The revamps just made it less a means to an end, and more an end in-and-of itself.

[Safon]

So what is the final big addition to Velious before Luclin was released (like epics for Kunark)?

Just curious what to watch for as the final "official timeline" addition this server will have. After that at some point discussion would likely begin on custom content

[pasi]

Raiding Wise, Hate and Fear Revamps and I think the addition of Tunare. I don't think she was itemized when Velious launched, but I'm too lazy to look this up.

Another fun thing to add to the Velious Nerf list is the 60 second cleric BPs.

[Arteker]

barbarian flayed skin mask, clicky Barb

gnome clicky mask

PRIMAL

original barbarian mask didint have cliky ilussion till luclin.
list of nerf stuff u can get easy.
1: elder beads.
2: alliance necks from ice keep .
3: bcg
4: soe .
5:pre nerfed bps for clerics.
6: original ratio of velium weapons droped from rats . the ratio of the velium weapons got nerfed .
7: venemous axe albeit not sure if nerf was luclin .

[Arrisard]

original barbarian mask didint have cliky ilussion till luclin

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20011008.html

[Grahm]

i think they should speed up the nerfs of some of the shit tho. like the BFG, i never even saw one on live but on here every1 and there mom gonna have one

[Ele]

Another fun thing to add to the Velious Nerf list is the 60 second cleric BPs.

What?

Donal's BP cast time increased to 30 seconds.


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December 19, 2000 3:00 am
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*Patch Day*

Today's patch primarily consists of tuning of Velious zones as well as
content and other additions. In addition, the following changes have
been implemented on the Live servers:

- High-end items that have a activatable (right-click) healing effect
have in several cases had their casting times increased.


Added a 7.5 minute buff to prevent repeated CH on the same person.

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February 21, 2001 3:00 am
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[...]
--- Donal's Breastplate can now only be used on any individual target
once every 7.5 minutes. This addresses some of the balance issues that
became apparent given the existence of a mana-free complete heal.

Celestial Elixir (Cleric Velious BPs) changed to Mark of Karn

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March 14, 2001 3:00 am
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- The spell, Mark of Karn, has been enhanced to heal more per hit.
- The effect on the Celestial Elixir Breastplates has been changed to
the enhanced Mark of Karn. The casting time on these items has also
been changed to 9 seconds.


March 14, 2001 also saw the revamps for Hate/Fear/Epics:

The Planes:

The Planes of Fear and Hate have been updated as part of our two-year
celebration. Adventurers in the Plane of Fear will notice that some
high-level foes are now available. Rewards for former "boss npcs" have
been moved down to underlings that are roughly as powerful as the old
bosses were.

The Plane of Hate has also received a large update, but this one also
includes the opening of a previously undiscovered part of the zone, now
full high-level expansion-oriented content. Much as with Fear, rewards
from bosses have been moved.

Epic Quests:

As part of the Plane updates, we've made several adjustments to Epic
quests for a number of classes. Previously, questers of many classes
were put in direct competition with regular non-questing adventurers
for a few coveted spawns. In these cases, a new step has been added to
separate the "Epic Encounter" NPCs from the "Epic Quest" NPCs.

For those who are mid-quest, all quest requirements have remained the
same. In other words, if you turn the same items into the same NPC, the
same reward applies. What has changed is that some components may be in
a different location from where you expect them. It is recommended that
you check with the last NPC in line or other adventurers to find where
you need to go next.

[pasi]

The original velious cleric BP was a 60 second cast of Celestial, I think. Let me look up and confirm.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

The original velious cleric BP was a 60 second cast of Celestial, I think. Let me look up and confirm.

holy fuck, seriously 60 second click? this can't be serious o_o

[pasi]

The casting time for four cleric brestplates sporting the "Celestial
Healing" effect has been increased to one minute. We understand that
this severely limits the use of that effect and we are currently
discussing alternate effects to place on those items in the next patch.
We did, however, need to address the 300pt per tick regen that could be
placed and kept on the group tank. When we've decided on the new
affect, it will be applied to those items retroactively.

It's only for two weeks, but still pretty hilarious.

[Ele]

It's only for two weeks, but still pretty hilarious.

Ah yeah good catch, been so wrapped up with the Donal's history. Celestial Healing iirc was 24 second (4 tick), so you just keep clicking to create a permanent 300hp/tick regen on one tank at the cost of one cleric.

[Splorf22]

original barbarian mask didint have cliky ilussion till luclin.
list of nerf stuff u can get easy.
1: elder beads.
2: alliance necks from ice keep .
3: bcg
4: soe .
5:pre nerfed bps for clerics.
6: original ratio of velium weapons droped from rats . the ratio of the velium weapons got nerfed .
7: venemous axe albeit not sure if nerf was luclin .

When did the elder beads get nerfed? That seems like a pretty pimp item for a monk or necro, which is like 95% of our population.

And what is an alliance neck?

[pasi]

Alliance Neck is Ornate Velium Pendant or so. From Coldain Council people in Icewell. Infinite Charge Clicky Alliance.

[Velkator]

How did the Venomous axe get nerfed? I don't recall that. Your talking about the Venomous Axe of the Velium Brood correct?
...if your talking about the level nerf of it, thats way later I believe.

[Xadion]

aye velious bp plus some donalds = ch every 1 or 2 sec and celestial constantly... Then its all up to the warriors and their agro.

so for 3 weeks or so we have donemode velious? Hehe

[pasi]

How did the Venomous axe get nerfed? I don't recall that. Your talking about the Venomous Axe of the Velium Brood correct?
...if your talking about the level nerf of it, thats way later I believe.

It got nerfed way after Velious. It (and Doljonisgfkjgksjger) used to proc at level 1. Ven axe was changed to 35ish and Dolj 44.

[Droog007]

On ST... I think it would be dumb if someone *cough* awakened The Sleeper 6 weeks into SoV and the zone was allowed to lie fallow for however long the server survives after that. That's all...

[Arteker]

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20011008.html

urhm 2hand patchs was same time mask got ilusion? it was so close to velius to end ,p
because didint luclin was released like 4 december of 2001.
could be as i was moving to solusek ro server and Magna charta was breakin and didint raid but i prety much remember mask didint have cliky ,p

[Arteker]

And what is an alliance neck?
is a infinite cliky neck all all alliance faction spell . when u doing faction for ur armour turn ins the neck can help you way easier to grind aswell can be use to do some pulling shit , i dont remember very well it was on monkeybussynes website

[Arrisard]

urhm 2hand patchs was same time mask got ilusion? it was so close to velius to end ,p
because didint luclin was released like 4 december of 2001.
could be as i was moving to solusek ro server and Magna charta was breakin and didint raid but i prety much remember mask didint have cliky ,p

Your original post said the illusion being added to the mask was a Luclin change. The patch note I linked is from October 8, 2001 and specifically states that the illusion is added to the mask, Luclin was 2 months later.