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gotrocks
11-07-2012, 02:20 AM
My state passed a law legalizing Marijuana today - something that I think has been a long time coming. The amount of money spent on putting pot heads through the legal system and into jails is absolutely ridiculous compared to the amount of money we could be making from them instead.

Opponents of this kind of thing claim that legalizing Marijuana will lead to rampant drug use and a general collapse of society. Most of them ignore the fact that a far, far more dangerous drug, alcohol, has been legal for decades without bringing about the end of the country. The bottom line is people who smoke pot will still smoke pot, and people who dont still wont. You *might* get some new smokers from this, and yes some of them may in fact be teenagers, but opponents are once again ignoring an important fact while they bleat about how easy it will be for teenagers to obtain pot now - it was *always* harder to get alcohol as a teenager than it was to get Marijuana. Why? Because it was state controlled. You couldn't just call up Ricky the local leather jacket wearing motorcycle riding 17 year old badass to get a bottle of liquor. You had to find someone who was 21 to buy it for you, which, while possible, was not nearly as easy as calling Ricky. If anything its going to be harder for kids to buy weed now.

I fully support this law, 100%. I don't even smoke pot anymore, haven't for a long time (though i was certainly a huge pot smoker for a very long time). But once again i do believe this is LONG overdue. And I am absolutely going to celebrate by taking a trip down to the local dispensary with my gf and pick up a bag of some potent strain of Indica (my girl can't smoke sativa), find my pipe (I know its around here somewhere, i never got rid of it) and blaze a bowl for all the potheads who no longer have to worry about spending a night in jail for doing the same thing most people do when they drink a beer, relax.

Way to go Washington - I hope you're leading the way to a nationwide change. A very profitable one. ;)!

stormlord
11-09-2012, 09:28 PM
The same ballot measure failed in Oregon. But I can look across the river and know you guys passed it. I agree that alcohol and tobacco have to be at least as bad as Marijuana but they're in all honestly worse. This is all textbook stuff. I cant remember the specifics off the top of my head right now, but tobacco smoking, for example, is the most addictive drug on the lists they have. More than cocaine or heroine. Alcohol, on the same list, is more addictive than Marijuana. I could go on and on. For example, the studies I read about in my textbook for my drug class showed that cancer rates were high in tobacco smokers yet very low (if non-factors) in Marijuana smoking. I was stunned when I learned these things.

I think that bringing this issue out of the shadows and into the public light is a great thing. It'll make the illegal sale of this drug less lucrative. It'll also make it safer since many illegal drugs are not safely made and many overdoses result from it. It'll force it into the open so users have to be more responsible.

We can't eliminate addictive drugs but we can make using them a safer process.

I think that the federal government is going to try to stop it. You have to consider that only 2 (or 3?) states just recently passed this law. I don't know how many others have laws for it. Here in oregon we have a law that allows its medical use. But since there're so many states where Marijuana is illegal this will cause them to complain and it's a sure bet that the federal governemnt will try to stop it from being legal.

Hailto
11-09-2012, 09:36 PM
While i agree that marijuana should be legal, theres no way nicotine is as addictive as heroin when taken as a whole. It might be more addictive on a basic chemical level if you don't consider the high associated with it, which is another factor leading to addiction. When i smoke a cigarette i don't feel like im having a full body orgasm for 3 hours.

Sirken
11-09-2012, 09:41 PM
just curious, did they pass the farce that is medical marijuana, or did they go for recreational use as Colorado voters did?

thanks!


and for your girl that hates sativas, have her try Apollo 11 (genius pheno) by Bodhi. that plant is like magic. i know a few people that dont like the racy head high that pure sativas give off. while this is very sativa heavy (80/20 - S/I), most of the people that claim to not like sativas end up loving the Apollo 11 (tastes like Pineapple and Cheetos!).

personally im a big sativa fan, they just take so damned long to finish, which is why i dont often work with them.

<3 !

stormlord
11-09-2012, 09:44 PM
While i agree that marijuana should be legal, theres no way nicotine is as addictive as heroin when taken as a whole. It might be more addictive on a basic chemical level if you don't consider the high associated with it, which is another factor leading to addiction. When i smoke a cigarette i don't feel like im having a full body orgasm for 3 hours.
I still have my textbook from the drug class.

It's on page 83 (Uppers, Downers, All Arounders: Physical and Mental effects of Psychoactive Drugs. C 2007.) It says:
The drugs that push the hardest and the quickest toward addiction are, in order from the fastest to slowest:
smoking tobacco
smoking crack cocaine
smoking or injecting heroin
injecting methamphetamine
snorting cocaine
ingesting opioid painkillers
ingesting any amphetamine
ingesting sedative hypnotics
drinking alcohol
smoking marijuana
ingesting PCP
ingesting caffeine
ingesting MDMA (ecstasy)
ingesting LSD
ingesting peyote
The same textbook obviously does not support legalizing Marijuana or any of hte other drugs and in fact takes a hardline stance against all drugs and addictions. I don't agree with it on that. I think we'll never eliminate drugs or addictions. And I think it's better to keep them out in the open then in the shadows.

The costs of addictive drugs to society is high. There's no doubt that there's negative health impacts. But there's negative health impacts to driving too. You can't live without dying either. I'm not saying this to diminish the harm that addiction does to people, but there're things about people that we're not ever going to change. Best we can do is compromise and to instill in people responsibility and to teach our children to be discerning.

Reiker000
11-09-2012, 09:46 PM
caffeine is easily more addictive than marijuana.

MDMA, LSD, & peyote, don't even know how they rank those since they're not addictive at all.

Hailto
11-09-2012, 09:47 PM
caffeine is easily more addictive than marijuana.

MDMA, LSD, & peyote, don't even know how they rank those since they're not addictive at all.

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