If I were to hire a druid to PL me...

[Flash]

...how many hours would it take for a lv1 Bard to reach lv30?

I can afford maybe 6 hours.

[webrunner5]

I would go to the EC tunnel and get DS and buffs and get to level 10 to save you some plat. 6 hours would be pushing it to start at level 1. You have to figure there are no hell levels till level 30. If you average 3% per kill that is 35 a level times 30 = over 1000 mobs you have to kill. Not counting travel time and buffs. Hard to do in 6 hours. You really can't PL for 6 hours straight. Your will be wore out as the Pl'er. It is a lot of work to PL.

[fishingme]

For a bard, I would strongly suggest that you stop at around lvl 19 if you're looking to save cash. Then start practicing aoe kiting. once you're 32 and in OT, you'll be doing 1 pull a level

[Barkingturtle]

Three hours to level 18, then PL yourself to thirty in another five or six hours. Seriously, my first kite as an 18 bard in EK dinged me halfway through 20. Totally agree you shouldn't pay for a PL after 18.

[Kraftwerk]

Three hours to level 18, then PL yourself to thirty in another five or six hours. Seriously, my first kite as an 18 bard in EK dinged me halfway through 20. Totally agree you shouldn't pay for a PL after 18.

And EK pales in comparison to the monster kites of OT, in fact as a lvl 30 Bard you can plvl other people in OT faster than a Druid could (assuming you're good at kiting).

[GenieHakeem]

Swarm kiting, that just blows me away as a shaman. One of the main reasons I would want to try bard. Huge circles, masses of death, heavenly melodies ensuing demise.

[Swish]

Bards in OT are commonly asking for rezzes - just make sure your connection is as stable as it can be.

All the usual BS, don't play on a wireless connection unless you're forced to, shut down any browser windows, turn off your torrents/downloads. Do what you can to keep the lag spikes down :)

Also a guise of the deciever from Lower Guk is a bonus for OT isn't it?

[Kraftwerk]

Also a guise of the deciever from Lower Guk is a bonus for OT isn't it?

Yea, if you go DE illusion and are apprehensive can sell in outpost.

[fishingme]

Bards in OT are commonly asking for rezzes - just make sure your connection is as stable as it can be.

All the usual BS, don't play on a wireless connection unless you're forced to, shut down any browser windows, turn off your torrents/downloads. Do what you can to keep the lag spikes down :)

Also a guise of the deciever from Lower Guk is a bonus for OT isn't it?

After too much trial and error the last couple of days I finally figured out how to pull all of OT without a deadly amount of mob lag. But I'm pretty sure it was because of my puny 256mb video card.

[Swish]

But I'm pretty sure it was because of my puny 256mb video card.

Kind of reminds me of another point. Some people experience a moment's lag when someone zones in (4 choices there).

Don't play on a calculator!

[Tasslehofp99]

Incluiding the run from Freeport to befallen, it would take 1 hour~ roughly for a 60 druid with good gear to get a bard 1-13. 13-24 would take another 2-3 hours including travel time to unrest. 24-30 I'd suggest Lguk, not sure how long it would take.

[fishingme]

Kind of reminds me of another point. Some people experience a moment's lag when someone zones in (4 choices there).

Don't play on a calculator!

The lag the I receive seems purely from the amount of mobs that I have on me, it doesn't seem to spike anymore unless i have over 100. Even then as long as im paying really good attention I can always correct for the lag.

[Kraftwerk]

The lag the I receive seems purely from the amount of mobs that I have on me, it doesn't seem to spike anymore unless i have over 100. Even then as long as im paying really good attention I can always correct for the lag.

There are a few tricks to reducing lag, helps me regularly kite 100/120+ mobs in OT.

Turn off all spell effects number one.
Hide all corpses (I have a macro for that, so as mobs die in kite I tap it and reduces graphic lag)
Turn off far clip plane (I usually keep it at 100% while gathering, then drop it down to ~40-50% for the DoT portion)
Some other bards could prob chime in with some other stuff I might be missing. I hide DoT dmg messages too, it's all second nature at this point so hard to recall specifically.

[fishingme]

There are a few tricks to reducing lag, helps me regularly kite 100/120+ mobs in OT.

Turn off all spell effects number one.
Hide all corpses (I have a macro for that, so as mobs die in kite I tap it and reduces graphic lag)
Turn off far clip plane (I usually keep it at 100% while gathering, then drop it down to ~40-50% for the DoT portion)
Some other bards could prob chime in with some other stuff I might be missing. I hide DoT dmg messages too, it's all second nature at this point so hard to recall specifically.

I've done all of that all ready. I do the same with clip plane, hide corpse is hot keyed. I can't turn off all spell effects, can only set them to low. I'm thinking about deleting the spell files but I'm unsure if i want to considering i use the spell effects half the time to gauge my circle. I mean, I only counted the mobs up to 100 from the "you have gained experience" there was still a bit more but i couldnt keep track with the scrolling

[Kraftwerk]

I've done all of that all ready. I do the same with clip plane, hide corpse is hot keyed. I can't turn off all spell effects, can only set them to low. I'm thinking about deleting the spell files but I'm unsure if i want to considering i use the spell effects half the time to gauge my circle. I mean, I only counted the mobs up to 100 from the "you have gained experience" there was still a bit more but i couldnt keep track with the scrolling

I use sound to gauge my circles, I know the different sounds and their distances - basically it's super sad and pathetic of me. (plants+chickens in OT have specific sound+distance, tigers in OT have specific sound+distance, bees+skeles in BW have specific sound+distance). Could try spell effects completely off and go by sound instead.

[Cribanox]

Are there no casters in OT?

[gotrocks]

Are there no casters in OT?

not that i know of

[John2020]

I DONT KNow but all I know is that back in time when I was playing foreverquest (LMAO) i put about maybe two months of time in accoriding to the stat tracker. I spent all my time trying to form a group or solo and I got a max level at level 14. When I got sow I ran into some tough hard fellows and they ruined my spirit and I quit the game for good. So it might take a while!

You takea nod and listen closly to what I have said because I am from the future at the year of 2020

[John2020]

LMAO :) just kidding about th last part

[Kraftwerk]

Are there no casters in OT?

There are Sarnak casters, but when I pull kites they only include Tigers, Plants, Birds. If you agro a sarnak while gathering it is likely he'll social agro more sarnak and eventually a caster.

It's same deal in BW (at least for me solo), I only do bees and skeles there, nothing else due to varying hit boxes and casters.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

I would go to the EC tunnel and get DS and buffs and get to level 10 to save you some plat. 6 hours would be pushing it to start at level 1. You have to figure there are no hell levels till level 30. If you average 3% per kill that is 35 a level times 30 = over 1000 mobs you have to kill. Not counting travel time and buffs. Hard to do in 6 hours. You really can't PL for 6 hours straight. Your will be wore out as the Pl'er. It is a lot of work to PL.

This is just terrible. Depends on class of course (exp pens n such) but taking a character to 30 with good PL takes maybe 3hrs.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

There are Sarnak casters, but when I pull kites they only include Tigers, Plants, Birds. If you agro a sarnak while gathering it is likely he'll social agro more sarnak and eventually a caster.

It's same deal in BW (at least for me solo), I only do bees and skeles there, nothing else due to varying hit boxes and casters.

where are the sarnak casters? I've only seen knights / bers. Are you talking closer to mudpits?

Also, there are casters (scorpikis, outpost mobs, that iksar shm quest mob who hangs out) but that's just being pedantic. Nothing you'll actually kite :P

[webrunner5]

This is just terrible. Depends on class of course (exp pens n such) but taking a character to 30 with good PL takes maybe 3hrs.

Your going to kill a 1000 mobs in 3 hours. Good luck with that.

[A1551]

Your going to kill a 1000 mobs in 3 hours. Good luck with that.

3% avg exp per kill is an awfully (even ridiculously) low estimate for a well geared lvl 60 powerleveler with a good strategy for 1 to 30. I can't personally imagine even coming close to hitting heallun's estimate but I also wouldn't be terribly surprised to see it happen -- although I would be impressed!

-Propo Fol

[Jokesteve]

Your going to kill a 1000 mobs in 3 hours. Good luck with that.

key is killing reds, so you dont have to kill 1000

[fishingme]

I've pled more than most, I'd really like to see a 0-30 pl in 3 hours.

[Kraftwerk]

where are the sarnak casters? I've only seen knights / bers. Are you talking closer to mudpits?

Also, there are casters (scorpikis, outpost mobs, that iksar shm quest mob who hangs out) but that's just being pedantic. Nothing you'll actually kite :P

Sarnak enthusiasts are casters, they're in the buildings and when you're doing big kites don't want sarnak because they'll social agro.

[Slave]

I've pled more than most, I'd really like to see a 0-30 pl in 3 hours.

Yeah, maybe 20-30 in 3 hours, not with a druid, and for melee class only.

Druid takes about 3 hours to do 10-20.

[fishingme]

Yeah, maybe 20-30 in 3 hours, not with a druid, and for melee class only.

Druid takes about 3 hours to do 10-20.

Haha, I'd still just like to see that guy pl a char 0-30 in 3 hours. 10 levels in 3 hours, if there are no afk breaks at all and no other people in zone, sure.

[Emphase]

i can vouch for heallun, pl'd my shaman rawthentic from lvl 6 to 25 in 2 hours

[fishingme]

i can vouch for heallun, pl'd my shaman rawthentic from lvl 6 to 25 in 2 hours

what zones? what class was he?