Do people group regularly at Highpass and HHK around 18-25?

[Twilight-Sparkle]

I know Highpass has orcs at the entrance from Kithicor and also has a small rogue camp near the HHK zoneline. I'm also aware that monks like to hang out at HHK for exp and money, since the guards drop fine steel weps and the nobles are easy to kill. Do people still group in these two zones for exp? Or are they mostly abandoned save for the 50+?

[stormlord]

I haven't played on p1999 in almost a year and am not playing now but back when i was playing there were occasional groups in Highpass Hold doing the gnolls. Sometimes a high level would camp the orcs for something, I believe. Get a bind in Highhold Keep. If you're just passing through, you need to know the way or you'll probably die, unless you're high enough. So when you first enter the zone, be careful. It's a long walk.

[Peekae]

Generally your best bet is to form a group and go there. the HHK goblins are some damn good xp and so is Sol a however you may find the zone semi empty if you go alone

[kastan]

Actually had the same question. I used to love levelling in high pass/highkeep back in the day.

[SamwiseRed]

Unrest > MM, anything else is no.

[Dantes]

High Pass groups are few and far between, but I've been able to get people to come over there. In High Keep there's been groups at the goblins pretty much 24/7 for the last few weeks.

[Kaedain]

whats a good lvl to start group at the goblins inside the keep ??

[Twilight-Sparkle]

Unrest > MM, anything else is no.

How do I get to MM?

[webrunner5]

How do I get to MM?

Take the boat to BB, then G Fay, Lesser G Fay, MM. Or port to BB or Steamfont. You HAVE to be level 22 ish or you will die in MM. Casters will eat you alive if not.

You can do the orc's at level 18 very well at the entrance from Kitch in a group. HHK is level 25 or better in the basement in a group. You NEED CC for both or you will die.

[SyanideGas]

Unrest is really the way to go honestly. Can get to what 20-30ish? Can probably kite the yard as a Bard fairly easily.

[Urbanzkopf]

Unrest is really the way to go honestly. Can get to what 20-30ish? Can probably kite the yard as a Bard fairly easily.

Just avoid ghouls cause they have aids. (ghoul root lol)

[SwordNboard]

Lately HHK has been busy, but HPH never is.

[Dantes]

Level 25 for the basement Goblins. You don't need CC. I soloed my mage from 25-30 there.

Does Unrest still suck? It used to be constantly overcrowded with too many groups and power levelers. I've completely avoided it with my lower toon. I agree it's a great zone to level in, just not when there's a million people around.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Level 25 for the basement Goblins. You don't need CC. I soloed my mage from 25-30 there.

Does Unrest still suck? It used to be constantly overcrowded with too many groups and power levelers. I've completely avoided it with my lower toon. I agree it's a great zone to level in, just not when there's a million people around.

It's a mediocre zone at best to PL in. Far, far better off even taking lvl 1's to mistmoore, assuming it's a DS situation. Also depends on PL'er strength (middling low 50s druid to a 60 cleric god, of course).

[Twilight-Sparkle]

I'm gonna go to Qeynos and Kelethin at 17 to catch up on my songs. I was told oasis is fairly good for leveling at 17 too, so maybe I'll try there.

[Swish]

I'm gonna go to Qeynos and Kelethin at 17 to catch up on my songs. I was told oasis is fairly good for leveling at 17 too, so maybe I'll try there.

If you go to Oasis at 17, try for an orc group over the crocs... more of them to kill and the loot is marginally better ;)

[Twilight-Sparkle]

If you go to Oasis at 17, try for an orc group over the crocs... more of them to kill and the loot is marginally better ;)

Well actually, could I find a group at Oasis now? I'm lv13 at the moment.

[Peekae]

13 is fine for crocs / caimans you can move to orcs at 15 or so you can stay and do orcs / deepwaters until like 20

[DeathByCactus]

I grouped / duoed from 22-24 at Orcs / Gnolls in HHP for faction and exp. During that time (the past 2 or 3 days), HHK has been packed full of groups 25-45 and there has been a large number of 60's in there. For instance, I have gotten 2 or 3 full rezzes with little problem come 7-9pm.

Yes people do group, yes you need to show initiative and grab some people at times and let them know that the exp is good and worth it. I noticed that after I started grouping there I would log in and there would be people factioning/exping at the orcs a little more.

I also picked up 3 Shralok packs, 2 Shiny brass halbers (vendored them), 1 Shiny Brass Idol, 2 PGT's and 40 orc/gnoll scalps which brought me from threatening to apprehensive.

[Slave]

If you go to Oasis at 17, try for an orc group over the crocs... more of them to kill and the loot is marginally better ;)

Or you could keep killing crocs past level 20 and never have to deal with adds, spells, or giants. Can't believe anyone ever does the orcs. It's just unnecessary and dumb with the low population we have here.

[fadetree]

Unless you find dealing with adds, spells or giants (?) to be interesting as opposed to choosing the easiest possible route all the time, that is.

[Tarathiel]

Or you could keep killing crocs past level 20 and never have to deal with adds, spells, or giants. Can't believe anyone ever does the orcs. It's just unnecessary and dumb with the low population we have here.

less competition for spawns at orcs, chasing down crocs can be a sob during prime time, well it was back when i had to do it anyways

[Swish]

less competition for spawns at orcs, chasing down crocs can be a sob during prime time, well it was back when i had to do it anyways

^

[Twilight-Sparkle]

Well I just dinged 17. Should I still stay in Oasis or can I move to Mistmoore yet?

[Lexical]

I can't keep watching this happen. Twilight, you are missing out on the magic that is EQ. Half the fun is going out and exploring the world, diving deep into dungeons with a group of friends and slowly exploring all areas of it. Become impulsive and just explore the world. Be cautious with where you go, but as a bard you shouldn't be in too much trouble.

But to answer your question, no MM is too high for 17. Once you hit 18 as a bard the most efficient way to lvl is swarm kiting in Karanas then OT. You should be in OT by 30 then you can swarm kite up to 49 if you want. But I warn you, such lvling comes at a great price.

[Twilight-Sparkle]

I can't keep watching this happen. Twilight, you are missing out on the magic that is EQ. Half the fun is going out and exploring the world, diving deep into dungeons with a group of friends and slowly exploring all areas of it. Become impulsive and just explore the world. Be cautious with where you go, but as a bard you shouldn't be in too much trouble.

But to answer your question, no MM is too high for 17. Once you hit 18 as a bard the most efficient way to lvl is swarm kiting in Karanas then OT. You should be in OT by 30 then you can swarm kite up to 49 if you want. But I warn you, such lvling comes at a great price.

I am adventuring. I went to Upper Guk last night. Ended in disaster though.

And I'm not in a hurry to gain levels either. But I'm not in the mood to wander the entire world on the other hand; I want to go to where it's most efficient. That's how I play. I've seen the entire world many times; there's no need to explore it again. I'll be doing plenty of that when I start working on my epic.

[Lexical]

Then swarm kiting. You can get lvl 50 damn quick as a bard.

[Twilight-Sparkle]

Then swarm kiting. You can get lvl 50 damn quick as a bard.

I don't know if I can do that. My Wireless DSL is not so stable, and I wouldn't feel comfortable doing something where one mistake would get me killed. I need room for error.

[Lexical]

Practice makes perfect. Start small, maybe 2 or 3 mobs and try not to get hit. Once you feel comfortable, start the swarm. Turn off ALL effects and graphics because you will lag. Honestly if you have a death for every successful swarm, you are still way ahead. It will also prepare you for later levels when you are expected to have at LEAST 3 songs twisted(beware the carpal tunnel). With swarm kiting, you can get to lvl 30 in a night, no problem.

[rekreant]

Go to Unrest upstairs until about 24, then you can do MM if you form a group for the entrance.

[Twilight-Sparkle]

Lex, I'm already twisting 4 different songs. Normally my songs are AoE chords, party haste, party MR/AC, and party regen.

That's when I'm using a lute. Otherwise if I have my swords out, I'll drop the AoE for Brusco.

[Lexical]

You'll be fine swarm kiting then. Honestly, it is the most efficient way to level as a bard. If you don't like it though, then you can do the level crawl with the others in unrest and MM.

[Twilight-Sparkle]

Can you solo Unrest at 18 or do you absolutely need a group to hunt there?

[Swish]

Can you solo Unrest at 18 or do you absolutely need a group to hunt there?

Yes you can, ghouls just inside the house (and skellies) should be doable :)

[Twilight-Sparkle]

Is lv20 enough to start getting groups at HHK? I just dinged 20 tonight.

[Sturgeon]

Is lv20 enough to start getting groups at HHK? I just dinged 20 tonight.

Yes you should be able to handle the first floor of goblins with a group no problem. Worst case you can probably solo in the jail cell area.

Hardest part will be finding people to group since it really is a far off spot and unless you have someone to bind you there corpse runs are a pita.

[Twilight-Sparkle]

Well I'll give MM and HHK a try. I'm lv21 and I'm having a very hard time getting into groups at Unrest. Guess it's a really popular zone.

[Sirken]

try MM, HHK

if u dont mind kunark, try Kurns