Out of the current playerbase who would support Increased XP Rate next patch?

[Etris]

Pass!

[heartbrand]

EXP rate is fine as it currently is at this point

[mostbitter]

It would be nice if the rest of the server could enjoy the bonus experience that pushed nihilum to 60

[Etris]

Exactly! XP rate is perfect for a population leveling up together too. If I joined when the server was filled with lowbies - sure exp would fly and I'd be just another 60 like yourself who have thousands of pp to deck out a solo character today, where exp rate is "ok" cause you're raping yellows.

But as a newbie, today, with NO population at low levels - I'm forced to either A. roll a druid/wiz/necro/mage to 50+, then farm gear to level up a class I want to play. or B. hunt light blues till my ear bleeds red bull. That's retarded and probably doesn't help the server grow.

People come to pvp, there's no pvp at low levels, high level guilds aren't recruiting lowbies, and all I've read is how you upper levels want a bigger population?? so increase the exp rate to allow us lowbies to join the fight right? how does this hurt anyone? you high levels can roll 100 level 60s for all I care, create more spys to join guilds and cause more pvp drama - that's awesome. If I wanted to kill bats I'd join the blue server with 70000 population, but I don't - I stick it out to be able to gank people like you! RAGE DRUNKEN PVP!

But having me sit at low levels to cry and whine all day.......that's cold.......under the belt and pointless for the both of us. Don't you guys want to gank me? come on! I want to be ganked! Increase xp rate!

[HippoNipple]

Exactly! XP rate is perfect for a population leveling up together too. If I joined when the server was filled with lowbies - sure exp would fly and I'd be just another 60 like yourself who have thousands of pp to deck out a solo character today, where exp rate is "ok" cause you're raping yellows.

But as a newbie, today, with NO population at low levels - I'm forced to either A. roll a druid/wiz/necro/mage to 50+, then farm gear to level up a class I want to play. or B. hunt light blues till my ear bleeds red bull. That's retarded and probably doesn't help the server grow.

People come to pvp, there's no pvp at low levels, high level guilds aren't recruiting lowbies, and all I've read is how you upper levels want a bigger population?? so increase the exp rate to allow us lowbies to join the fight right? how does this hurt anyone? you high levels can roll 100 level 60s for all I care, create more spys to join guilds and cause more pvp drama - that's awesome. If I wanted to kill bats I'd join the blue server with 70000 population, but I don't - I stick it out to be able to gank people like you! RAGE DRUNKEN PVP!

But having me sit at low levels to cry and whine all day.......that's cold.......under the belt and pointless for the both of us. Don't you guys want to gank me? come on! I want to be ganked! Increase xp rate!

One reason I don't like it is that it destroys the hard work that people have put in. I leveled my necro to 33 with the standard exp before any bonus and it still kind of annoys me that others can get there so easily now. Another punch in the mouth is the scaled exp so 1-33 is even that much more insignificant.

I know Nihilum got the exp bonus from 50-60 but who cares, they are going to get 60 whether it takes them 2 weeks or 3-4 weeks.

I get what you are saying and it does suck that you can't roll the class you want but that's just how it is. You will always have something to complain about. If you did get easy access to level 50+ you will start complaining that you can't get gear or level 60's are steamrolling you.

The majority of the characters logged on when you play are under level 50, even though they may have other chars over level 50. There is fun to be had, both pve and pvp before level 50+. Giving everyone a free ride to 50 just erases the portion of the game that is already lacking because of low population.

[Bamzal Sherbet]

It would be nice if the rest of the server could enjoy the bonus experience that nihilum poopsocked like no-lifers to 60 with

[mostbitter]

erasing something that doesn't exist is a tough thing to do so you kinda nullified your own argument there hippo

[Tradesonred]

Again i think removing xp loss or cutting it down drastically would be better.

It would mean you can do more fun pvp at all levels, so i tend to think people already playing on the server would roll alts just for the sake of pvp. I would.

That also means that the influx of people starting fresh on servers now got potential partners to group up with (or pvp)

Thats whats needed i think, if someone starts on server and it feels alive at the low levels instead of ghost town zones, it will help the server to keep that new influx of players

You could always raise the xp to a point where by default the xp loss becomes negligible, but i think we need to keep at least some classic grind

[mostbitter]

why do u have a boner for grinding? this games been out for 13 years i swear to god the last fucking thing i enjoy about the server is doing the grind for the umpteenth time

[Tradesonred]

why do u have a boner for grinding? this games been out for 13 years i swear to god the last fucking thing i enjoy about the server is doing the grind for the umpteenth time

Thats a good question. WHY? WHY ECOLI, WHY

Strictly because its supposed to be a classic server i guess? Creates dependance upon others, like no boxing. Not everyone has a 50 cleric, tank and mage.

But i would not complain if it was boosted either, not the only custom stuff here

[Dacuk]

nod who do you think the post kunark release xp bonus benefitted the most? Obviously the biggest poopsockers with ridiculous amounts of /played

Should drastically increase grouping xp bonus, add in hot zones, remove hybrid penalty, or some combination of the 3. Blanket xp bonuses disproportionately benefit the poopsockers.

Not like this even has a chance of happening lol. this is another wasted thread. YT anyone?

[Andis]

I propose YT strike.

Let's all not log in until YT is put in, or until we can't stop the eq itch

discuss

[Tradesonred]

nod who do you think the post kunark release xp bonus benefitted the most? Obviously the biggest poopsockers with ridiculous amounts of /played

Should drastically increase grouping xp bonus, add in hot zones, remove hybrid penalty, or some combination of the 3. Blanket xp bonuses disproportionately benefit the poopsockers.


Yeah that sounds about right, better than across the board xp boost

I think hotzones and xp loss removal would do tons to foster activity at low levels by bottlenecking all the actions

This and xp loss removal/cutting more important than YT, although i would not mind it being added (without the location of the kill)

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Basically thinkin all this through, revival recipe is, for me:

Hotzones, remove hybrid penalty, pvp xp loss removal or drastic cut with low bars on spawning, big group xp bonus, YT without locations. BAM thrive

P.S. Stop being assholes would help too

[heartbrand]

anyone who can't level with the current insane exp boost sucks @ this game tbh

[Tradesonred]

anyone who can't level with the current insane exp boost sucks @ this game tbh

Sure i can cut a football field with toenail clippers

Please, more helpful input about how to better the server

[Ames_]

I soloed my paladin from 20-40 with a few duo/trio groups here and there in a few weeks of casual play. Really no need for an XP boost unless its 51-60

[Etris]

anyone who can't level with the current insane exp boost sucks @ this game tbh

What does that even mean? I can level with .000001% exp rate of the blue server if I had to. Doesn't change the fact that this isn't supposed to be a grindy pve server.

You're forced to solo when starting out on this server. Fact.

Soloing as a Warrior / Rogue is rediculously time consuming. Possible yes, grinding light blues and bandaging to 50% then sitting till 100%.

Increase exp rate so they don't need to do this so often.

I still don't understand why people want to keep the rate as it is? What's the problem with fast exp? You'll all still be doing what you're doing....The bonus is MORE PLAYERS (for you to gank and laugh at).

Is Nihilum scared of competition? I don't get it.

If you want to appreciate the grind, go blue.

Hot zones are a good idea.

I hear people saying don't raise it....why? the pros outweigh the cons. Sure there's always things to complain about....doesn't change the fact that this betters the server more than hurts it.

[mostbitter]

I soloed my paladin from 20-40 with a few duo/trio groups here and there in a few weeks of casual play. Really no need for an XP boost unless its 51-60

shut the fuck up, you solo leveled ur paladin my ass, you solo leveled a shaman then made a melee twink

[heartbrand]

What does that even mean? I can level with .000001% exp rate of the blue server if I had to. Doesn't change the fact that this isn't supposed to be a grindy pve server.

You're forced to solo when starting out on this server. Fact.

Soloing as a Warrior / Rogue is rediculously time consuming. Possible yes, grinding light blues and bandaging to 50% then sitting till 100%.

Increase exp rate so they don't need to do this so often.

I still don't understand why people want to keep the rate as it is? What's the problem with fast exp? You'll all still be doing what you're doing....The bonus is MORE PLAYERS (for you to gank and laugh at).

Is Nihilum scared of competition? I don't get it.

If you want to appreciate the grind, go blue.

Hot zones are a good idea.

I hear people saying don't raise it....why? the pros outweigh the cons. Sure there's always things to complain about....doesn't change the fact that this betters the server more than hurts it.

You realize you're talking to a guy who is one of two 60 warriors on the server right? Your false premise is that this server isn't meant to be "Grindy," when in fact, the mission statement of this server has been posted many times, to emulate classic EQ. If you don't like the journey, perhaps LoZ is for you, I heard that server is thruvvvvving. All of the former garage boxes and loz with super fast exp and non-existent PVE prove the same thing: EQ is not meant to be CS with elves, and when it is, the longevity of said server is very short.

[Etris]

Woah wait. You leveled a warrior? Damn dude. You must have had a guild behind you for that, right? amIrite? Like groups and stuff....I mean warriors need heals and stuff right? God, let me know when you're in NYC- I need your autograph.

Better yet, can you PM a pic of yourself? I think I've got some lotion laying around somewhere...

[HippoNipple]

If you can't handle this servers current exp grind you are playing the wrong game. Your vision is flawed and everything you are saying about how the server would be better is incorrect.

The newbie zones would not be filled. Most of the content on this server would be skipped. People would be bored quicker and leave the server quicker without a chunk of the game to experience.

A lot of the server enjoys pvp from level 1-50. You would basically be erasing it with the exp rate you are wanting. Right now on my wizard I get a level in about 1-2 hours. If I actually played a lot like most of this server I would be going through a spell level every night.

Do you really want the game changed for your class choice. This is Everquest. It has faults. Every other game that comes out now allows every class to solo. Everquest does not. This server isnt' going to change it so you can make a warrior and get 10% of a level every light blue kill and then med for 15 minutes.

[Andis]

Woah wait. You leveled a warrior? Damn dude. You must have had a guild behind you for that, right? amIrite? Like groups and stuff....I mean warriors need heals and stuff right? God, let me know when you're in NYC- I need your autograph.

Better yet, can you PM a pic of yourself? I think I've got some lotion laying around somewhere...

+1

[heartbrand]

If you can't handle this servers current exp grind you are playing the wrong game. Your vision is flawed and everything you are saying about how the server would be better is incorrect.

The newbie zones would not be filled. Most of the content on this server would be skipped. People would be bored quicker and leave the server quicker without a chunk of the game to experience.

A lot of the server enjoys pvp from level 1-50. You would basically be erasing it with the exp rate you are wanting. Right now on my wizard I get a level in about 1-2 hours. If I actually played a lot like most of this server I would be going through a spell level every night.

Do you really want the game changed for your class choice. This is Everquest. It has faults. Every other game that comes out now allows every class to solo. Everquest does not. This server isnt' going to change it so you can make a warrior and get 10% of a level every light blue kill and then med for 15 minutes.

Yup pretty much this. EQ is all about the carrot you keep on chasing. Other servers that try to eliminate the carrot end up overnight ghost towns: See LoZ.

[mostbitter]

You realize you're talking to a guy who is one of two 60 warriors on the server right? Your false premise is that this server isn't meant to be "Grindy," when in fact, the mission statement of this server has been posted many times, to emulate classic EQ. If you don't like the journey, perhaps LoZ is for you, I heard that server is thruvvvvving. All of the former garage boxes and loz with super fast exp and non-existent PVE prove the same thing: EQ is not meant to be CS with elves, and when it is, the longevity of said server is very short.

didn't u buy that toon already leveled to 50?

[mostbitter]

also hipponipple is part of the minority on here. if we leave the server to suit flowers of happiness you're only catering to like 4 people

[HippoNipple]

also hipponipple is part of the minority on here. if we leave the server to suit flowers of happiness you're only catering to like 4 people

Not asking for the server to cater to me. I'm just stating the server is fine and doesn't need to be made more jelly for your sake. I'm one of the casual players so making it easier would normally be an argument for someone in my position. I'm just looking at the big picture and realizing how it would effect the server in the long run and don't think it is a good idea to increase the exp anymore.

[heartbrand]

didn't u buy that toon already leveled to 50?

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/102/checkraise.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/12/checkraise.jpg/)

[Etris]

If you can't handle this servers current exp grind you are playing the wrong game. Your vision is flawed and everything you are saying about how the server would be better is incorrect.

I'm playing Red99, an EQEMu server, not Everquest. That's what you're mixing up. You have the vision of the real classic days (which the developers wanted to remake) But the fact is those games thrived on community. Eqemu servers don't have thousands of players making the EQ Architecture work. I know I'm beating a dead fish and nothing will get changed, I'm just bored at work to be honest. I plan on hitting 60 regardless. I find enjoyment in end game pvp for this server, not mid game dungeon farming.....alone.


The newbie zones would not be filled. Most of the content on this server would be skipped. People would be bored quicker and leave the server quicker without a chunk of the game to experience.

They aren't filled as it is. Most of the content is skipped...till 50+ where players head back to CT / Guk to farm items for current / alts. I can't exactly head to dungeons solo, unless I'm hunting trash - which I'd do even with increased exp rate. Only way I'm killing bosses while solo is if I'm revisiting the dungeon when I'm higher than the content, right? Which happens now...Now as far as people getting bored quicker - you could be right. But I'd bet with the current war over named in dungeons and gank squads, that won't happen. If the Devs boosted drop rate on bosses, and everyone was jacked and their alts were jacked - sure the population would turn to 10 people playing for shinies. We need more higher levels...I mean isn't Nihilum the only guild in VP? That's a problem.

A lot of the server enjoys pvp from level 1-50. You would basically be erasing it with the exp rate you are wanting. Right now on my wizard I get a level in about 1-2 hours. If I actually played a lot like most of this server I would be going through a spell level every night.

Am I the only one seeing active pvp at levels 46+? There may be some 1v1 fights every 10 hours below that level...but that's not exactly qualified as PvP from 1-50. I'm with you though, I thoroughly enjoy pvp in starter zones from 1-20. But that's not around. Increasing exp rate won't bring it back no, but it creates larger wars and competition for nihilum at end game. With a larger player base. New players are joining the server and leaving cause the low end is dead. You need to keep them entertained for 46+ levels alone, without twinks characters...Wizard you say? Sounds about right.

Do you really want the game changed for your class choice. This is Everquest. It has faults. Every other game that comes out now allows every class to solo. Everquest does not. This server isnt' going to change it so you can make a warrior and get 10% of a level every light blue kill and then med for 15 minutes.

Yes I do. Because it's a real flaw to this server.

[heartbrand]

The real solution that satisfies everyone is to remove the current global EXP bonus and change it to a hot zone and grouping bonus. This keeps the basic grind integrity honest, while shifting the bonus benefit from those who need it least, solo classes, to those who need it most, groups.

[SamwiseRed]

hi, shameless post count bump

[HippoNipple]

Well I just came back recently and am already level 20. It took me no time at all. I play about 1-3 hours a day when I do get on. I didn't see one person from level 1-12 but since then I kill about 1 person a day. I get my level then look for someone to pk and it hasn't been a problem finding people.

[SamwiseRed]

you just need to get lucky. Jibekn leveled a warrior to 51 in like 2 weeks or less. he started leveling his warrior at the exact same time Eerb was leveling his cleric. those dudes basically destroyed classic eq together. hopefully you guys get a new wave of priests to level up groups. SHAMANS/DRUIDS IM LOOKING AT YOU TOO NOT JUST CLERICS. YOU ARE MELEES ONLY CHANCE OR SURVIVAL!!!!!! i do have a 28 cleric parked somewhere. hmmm.

[Etris]

How does adding a "group xp bonus" help players 1-40 who don't have groups? aka the non solo classes....which is why this poll is here in the first places...to help the solo nonsolo classes. The ones who rely on groups - but NO POPULATION TO GROUP WITH!

the whole "suck it up" theory doesn't fix shit. The population will stay low and the high level pvp will be the same 4 classes fighting eachother, with the exception of the veterans (you) who have the group specific classes during the grouping days! (server start).

[mostbitter]

ok so you just started with the best twink gear you could afford. i guess that's the same situation as this guy who is starting here naked. don't i feel silly?

[Etris]

I'm sticking around and sucking it up cause I love you guys. The community here is hillarious.

But I can't say the same for other newcomers.

I have 3 friends from the olden days who I tried recruiting and they don't want to grind again. So they're going to other crappy EZ servers and stuff. I'm sure they'd play with faster exp.

[HippoNipple]

ok so you just started with the best twink gear you could afford. i guess that's the same situation as this guy who is starting here naked. don't i feel silly?

My gear as a wiz isn't making the exp go much quicker. Still just sitting there waiting for mana to regen. Most of my gear is resist/hp so it helps me 0 in PvE. My gear isn't near good enough to obtain decent twink gear for a tank.

[SamwiseRed]

etris needs a druid leveling pal. panic animal is like 10 mana and its upgrade is prett cheap too. you guys can snare/fear kite all the way and since rogue dps isnt base on mana it would be chain pulls. also i would talk to Salem in game about spots to solo as a rogue. i know that guy did some soloing as a rogue (usually seen him solo now that I think about it) and be sure to level your poisons because that is the key.

[Ames_]

shut the fuck up, you solo leveled ur paladin my ass, you solo leveled a shaman then made a melee twink

What does gear have to do with me soloing mobs or not?

[Etris]

Rogue is on the backburner till I get a fungi tunic in 10 years.

Rolled a necromancer so I can hang with the pros and farm for gear.

[Ames_]

I'm sticking around and sucking it up cause I love you guys. The community here is hillarious.

But I can't say the same for other newcomers.

I have 3 friends from the olden days who I tried recruiting and they don't want to grind again. So they're going to other crappy EZ servers and stuff. I'm sure they'd play with faster exp.

Etris I have a level 7 mage that I got jboots on for some reason that I'm going to get geared up. You can level along with me if you'd like a partner. I can get a PL to your level real quick if your 10-20. PM me if you would like a pal.

[HippoNipple]

I'm sticking around and sucking it up cause I love you guys. The community here is hillarious.

But I can't say the same for other newcomers.

I have 3 friends from the olden days who I tried recruiting and they don't want to grind again. So they're going to other crappy EZ servers and stuff. I'm sure they'd play with faster exp.

Dude if you have a group of 4 and they can't handle this servers exp rate then it isn't a big loss. You can have tank/heal/cc/dps and rock through the lower levels. I think that set up would be awesome and fun with current exp rates. If they can't enjoy that then this server isn't missing much by not having them.

You would only need one of those 3 to be on for you to be able to have a decent duo, especially if you all were good friends and shared accounts so you could match up good duos.

[SamwiseRed]

4 mages, seriously

[Tradesonred]

What does gear have to do with me soloing mobs or not?

hahaha

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[mostbitter]

yeah he is tripping an my earlier comment was to doucheraise

[Ames_]

Its either im in a group or im fucking not. If im alone, its called soloing. What do the boots i have equipped have to do with that shit?

[mostbitter]

if you still don't get how your situation is different than a new person starting with nothing then i guess you wont. i'm gonna have to say no, i do not like you

[heartbrand]

Its either im in a group or im fucking not. If im alone, its called soloing. What do the boots i have equipped have to do with that shit?

[mostbitter]

the argument was about NEW TOONS LEVELING WITHOUT ASSISTANCE you fucking morons

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