BP oil spill, are we all going to die?!?

[smokiing]

So what is everyones take on this?

Heard about it a few weeks ago and have been following it ever since from Denmark. Having never heard about them, i stumbled upon the the alex jones show today, with lindsey williams on the air discussing the oil spill with inside spoilers from mr. x!

It made me pretty disturbed and i hope they are like the biggest radio trolls in the USA.

Well it basically seems like BP has been hiding secrets from day one, but now some of the people on the inside is getting really worried for all of us.

The sources suggest theyve been drilling way too deep down, have hit something like the main artery of a black heart under extreme pressure beyond our technology and now we are fucked.

The 5000 barrel/day spill seems to be in the millions now and while it was just oil and what not before, its now deadly toxic airbourne chemicals that will turn your insides out, make your babies look like cazic thule and end us all.

But have no worries, we might just have one solution to save mankind. Drill down a nuclear bomb and blow that sucker up or... make it much worse human style!

So is this it, are we all going to die?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYhugmaAL3A Lindsey Williams Talks with Alex Jones About Deadly Gases Leaking from BP Spill 1/9

[Pyrocat]

If you listen to Alex Jones for anything more than pure entertainment, you really need to get a reality check.

[Pyrocat]

That said, I believe the ocean will be too toxic for most fish to survive within my lifetime anyway.

[isitatomic]

The NWO cabal had plants in the Transocean drill team that left timed deepwater explosives in the drill shaft, knowing that the thousands of gallons of gushing oil would both conceal any residue from the blast as well as trigger eventual unilateral government response, thus expediting the transition toward the NWO world government and the North American Union police state secret meetings gold standard income tax is illegal they hate us for our freedom.


OBVIOUSLY.

[Jify]

/mourn BPs share price.

On the upswing, being an Albertan, all I have to say at a good chunk of the Ontario and US NGO's is, "Nah nah nah nahhh naaah" :P

Finally, something thats actually damaging to the environment for them to focus on.

[Dac321]

Once BP cleans up their mess, they need to go bankrupt. And the men responsible for this disaster need one nice kick in the genitals with a steel toe boot.

[ShadowWulf]

Once BP cleans up their mess, they need to go bankrupt. And the men responsible for this disaster need one nice kick in the genitals with a steel toe boot.

Well the goal now is to have "The Federal Government" (Aka taxpayers) pay for the cleanup. This is not coming from BP either, its being recommended by government officials in oil's pocket.

[Zordana]

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[Jify]

http://moestaverne.com/uploadarea/download.php?id=394

Tasty!

[Yoite]

hehe Alex Jones...although he blows shit way out of proportion, i like listening /reading / watching most of his stuff. It's interesting stuff, i just wouldn't take it 100% to heart.

[Eyry]

That said, I believe the ocean will be too toxic for most fish to survive within my lifetime anyway.

More oil leaks naturally out of the earths crust and into the ocean every day than what the Oil spill is doing right now. The only reason people are complaining about it is because its noticeable in one area.

There were tar balls before the spill and there will be tar balls after the spill. Deal with it.

[Taxi]

Your a moron. More oil leaks naturally out of the earths crust and into the ocean every day than what the Oil spill is doing right now. The only reason people are complaining about it is because its noticeable in one area.

There were tar balls before the spill and there will be tar balls after the spill. Deal with it.

The guy is right, its like those fucking hippies with their propagandas that trees produce oxygen, just so we stop cutting them. Fucking liberal morons, im with ya Eyry, turn on Fox News and pass the ammo.

Since this isnt R&F... /sarcasm off

[bullet]

More oil leaks naturally out of the earths crust and into the ocean every day than what the Oil spill is doing right now. The only reason people are complaining about it is because its noticeable in one area.

There were tar balls before the spill and there will be tar balls after the spill. Deal with it.

Hmm naturally =p

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/5841/44915782.jpg

http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/1909/15250297.jpg

[Eyry]

Hmm naturally =p

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/5841/44915782.jpg

http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/1909/15250297.jpg

Lol this post wins LOL!

[Taxi]

Love the pic lol whats the sub doing? Burying some nuclear fuel leftover?

[ShadowWulf]

Love the pic lol whats the sub doing? Burying some nuclear fuel leftover?

One plan, which will probably not be used but was proposed just the same, was to dig and fire a nuclear warhead into the well in an effort to create a new Godzilla in the ocean depths.

[Taxi]

One plan, which will probably not be used but was proposed just the same, was to dig and fire a nuclear warhead into the well in an effort to create a new Godzilla in the ocean depths.

Right... forgot about that one.

[Excision Rottun]

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[Taxi]

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/6452/slide750199938large.jpg

[bullet]

<3

CNN Live right now, should be some CEO grilling:

BP CEO Tony Hayward appears on Capitol Hill to testify about his company's response to the Gulf oil disaster.

http://edition.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream1

If anyones interested

60 MINUTES -- THE BLOWOUT PART 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLJHTTOSkpg

[pickled_heretic]

lol @ bullet

[bullet]

Lunch break till 12 am ET I think.

Didnt sound like Tony Hayward have many answers, hope they have some good questions for him.

[Zordana]

secrets was OP, but its so funny i had to bring it here

http://images.wildammo.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/aquaman_no.gif

[Toony]

Drilling at 5k feet presents problems shallow (500') drilling doesn't.

Any guesses as to why they were drilling at 5k?

[Taxi]

Drilling at 5k feet presents problems shallow (500') drilling doesn't.

Any guesses as to why they were drilling at 5k?

Theyre running out of Oil along shorelines and on land. Thats not a scientific affirmation, thats what i could muster from reading recent articles about the spill here and there.

I understand its the same reason why theres an industry in Alberta about extracting oil from bitumous sands (spelling).

[Toony]

Theyre running out of Oil along shorelines and on land. Thats not a scientific affirmation, thats what i could muster from reading recent articles about the spill here and there.

I understand its the same reason why theres an industry in Alberta about extracting oil from bitumous sands (spelling).

"Running out" is a relative term, but yeah it isn't getting any easier to drill shallow. There are still relatively large amounts of oil inland, but environmental concerns typically outweigh rights to those wells. One contributing factor to why they were out there is the 'Deep Water Royalty Relief Act'.

Ya know when you think about it, which is an easier accident to address, one on land or one at 5k feet deep?

[Taxi]

I was 14 when the Exxon Valdez spill hit, i was fucking shocked to see the consequences and decided to use public transportation instead of a car. I knew if i ever learned to drive and got used to it id probably never go back to public transportation so i didnt. I just turned 35 and never drove a car except these 2 times at 16 where i drove a stolen car for shits and giggles that was abandoned in a park. The problem was known 20 years ago and they didnt switch.

The problem is that oil companies dont want to change. Theyre comfortable in getting their piles of money and they are entrenched in this position that they wanna keep drilling and polluting to their hearts content cuz thats how they make money and fuck you if you dont like it.

What we need is some politicians with backbone who are going to bitchslap these motherfuckers. Tony Hayward should do hard time in Jail. Then well see him and other CEOs act nonchalant about 11 people dying and flooding 3 states with beached oil? Not likely. The thing is that theres no consequences.

What we need is energy companies stopping being oil companies. Some guy just got a Nobel prize for inventing Windows that are transluscent but still produce solar energy. Its time to plaster New York City with those windows and step into the 21st century.

[Excision Rottun]

I understand its the same reason why theres an industry in Alberta about extracting oil from bitumous sands (spelling).

The reason they are extracting from the Athabasca Oilsands, is that it contains about 1.7 trillion barrels of bitumen in-place, comparable in magnitude to the world's total proven reserves of conventional petroleum.

[Taxi]

The reason they are extracting from the Athabasca Oilsands, is that it contains about 1.7 trillion barrels of bitumen in-place, comparable in magnitude to the world's total proven reserves of conventional petroleum.

Ahh, i see.

Ive heard it said that its responsible for releasing more climate warming gas than any other methods, but not a scientific opinion here either.

[Excision Rottun]

That is true depending on who you ask (environmentalists vs. oil companies)

They do release aprox. 40% of all the greenhouse gasses in Alberta.

As well the operations there currently divert 359 million m3 of water from the Athabasca River, or more than twice the volume of water required to meet the annual municipal needs of the City of Calgary (current pop. 1.3million people)

More info here. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_sands#Environmental_issues)

[Daywolf]

Drilling at 5k feet presents problems shallow (500') drilling doesn't.

Any guesses as to why they were drilling at 5k?
5k? The avg on land is 2k and goes much deeper. This one is something like 20k feet.

Theyre running out of Oil along shorelines and on land. Thats not a scientific affirmation, thats what i could muster from reading recent articles about the spill here and there.Sorry, no. We are running out of places that we are allowed to drill on land. They are drilling in the gulf because there are no insane restriction nor millions and millions of dollars in fees just to explore a site to find if it does have oil.
More oil leaks naturally out of the earths crust and into the ocean every day than what the Oil spill is doing right now. The only reason people are complaining about it is because its noticeable in one area.

There were tar balls before the spill and there will be tar balls after the spill. Deal with it.True. I've even seen oil pools on land that have come up from oil caches below. This stuff is always coming up, not going down. It's more than likely a natural byproduct of the earth. Lets see you get a trillion "dinosaurs" 5 miles down where pressure is like 10000psi :D Oh yeah edit: problem is though that it's concentrated in one area. I'd probably go for the nuke option even though....

But have no worries, we might just have one solution to save mankind. Drill down a nuclear bomb and blow that sucker up or... make it much worse human style!
Problem is, who is going to pay for the damage from the tsunami? In the US, we can't even seed our clouds in most places, because of the impact resulting in lawsuits. This would make for international lawsuits on a big scale after shores get wiped. Jones is an ass btw, shock jock radio. Wait until he smears you, he has it against everyone... unless you buy gold from him.

[Excision Rottun]

5k? The avg on land is 2k and goes much deeper. This one is something like 20k feet.

It is 35,000 ft or 10km.

The water there is 5,000 ft deep, I assume that is what he meant.

[Dantes]

And after the apocalypse, $10 says Kevin Costner has to have sex with a hot girl for breeding purposes.

http://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/screenshots/142793d1276759071-funny-strange-random-pics-poster.jpg

[Daywolf]

It is 35,000 ft or 10km.

The water there is 5,000 ft deep, I assume that is what he meant.
Ah yeah that is probably right, I was going to say 40k or 20k feet slipped my mind the exact depth it was. 5k below the ocean surface because it's not under environmental regulation. I've done drilling (for a season) and have family that does full-time for many years, the regulations on land are absurd. Like most industries, they are pushed outside our borders.

[Excision Rottun]

I've done drilling (for a season) and have family that does full-time for many years, the regulations on land are absurd. Like most industries, they are pushed outside our borders.


Most of my friends either drill or work in the oil industry.

Some are pump-jack operators, crackers etc.

A couple drill in either Mexico or Saudi Arabia....serious $$$ there.

[Daywolf]

Most of my friends either drill or work in the oil industry.

Some are pump-jack operators, crackers etc.

A couple drill in either Mexico or Saudi Arabia....serious $$$ there.
Pumpjack. That’s the pumping units they install after the well is in. Maybe they set those up? That’s good pay. On drilling you have ropeman (or worm), cahinman, motorman, derrickman and mud pit or mudman (mud pits you see the steam rising from rigs). Off the rig you have one guy hiding in a trailer or room monitoring the drill angle on a computer. Then a company man moving from site to site handling any issues, taking people to the hospital etc.

Outside of the company you have Haliburton that comes by once or twice to probe the hole with radioactive sensors, checking integrity. Then you have all the support crews like welders to attach the well head and truckers to move the rig. This is probably beyond that reality tv show most likely, I watched a little and thought it was a riot, made for tv etc.

When they blow out, it sounds like a jet engine, super sonic, usually everyone dies. But not always, depends on the pressure from the depth. Running doubles (derrick height for 2 pipe connects) we usually went 2k feet which isn’t bad, and is pretty avg on land, takes 3 or 4 days actual drilling. We had a 200 lbs cap for the well if it blew, that we would pick up by hand and screw in lol. Blow outs are very rare though, like what happened in the gulf. Mud rigs are singles and go pretty shallow, only need 3 in the crew maybe. Mud because they are not on a platform but in the wet mud on the ground doing their thing, and covered in it. Not as common these days.

Natural gas is the major hazard, silent death. Die in under 3 seconds. A big problem with the gulf blowout right now as natural gas is everywhere. They don’t even allow anyone into the area any longer, I mean like reporters or public etc. Have helicopters falling out of the sky lol. Does not take many natural gas particles to kill, I mean the deadly stuff in it.

Anyway, for this gulf blowout, no idea how they are going to stop it. Probably won’t be able to until next year unless they nuke it. Problems with using nukes though, like tsunami potential and then radioactive water seeping up in time. They would need to write off drilling that deposit again of course, probably shut down adjacent rigs. They should lighten up on land exploration restrictions though, it’s stupid how intensive the restrictions are. Wells are not that dirty, cleaner than coal really. It’s just politics, really-really screwed up politics. But in the end those hyper-aggressive regulations only make for bigger screw-ups as we are seeing.

[Taxi]

But in the end those hyper-aggressive regulations only make for bigger screw-ups as we are seeing.

lol so the screw-ups are really because there are too many safety regulations?

[Daywolf]

lol so the screw-ups are really because there are too many safety regulations?Driving them into the gulf, yeah. When you have a screw-up under than much water, makes it harder to fix. They are out there because there are little to no restrictions. Not sure what your "lol" means, I only tell the truth in this. Restriction on land are just overwhelmingly stupid on a major scale. They are not made to save the environment but to drive industry away. Just like all the other industries the politicians have driven away to their own benefit, or taken over.

edit: Oh and I didn't say "safety" regulations, I'm speaking of environmental regulations. Save the grasshopper etc...
Takes years and millions of dollars in fees to count those grasshoppers before you can even explore 1 inch of land on a hunch their MIGHT be oil there lol

[Taxi]

Driving them into the gulf, yeah. When you have a screw-up under than much water, makes it harder to fix. They are out there because there are little to no restrictions.

I see, the results are convincing me we should ease up regulations on land as well...

[Daywolf]

I see, the results are convincing me we should ease up regulations on land as well...
Yeah safety is not an issue really. Training is extensive and there are a lot of precautions on the site. It costs a little extra for training, but that is normal in most industry. When something does go wrong, it can be fixed in a day in most cases. Even off-shore isn't bad, but deep water provides a lot of problems.

One of the big problems with the high cost and time involved in environmental impact reports, as they are, is that it easily prevents start-up companies due to the heavy funding on a pure gamble. So we now get monopolies and market manipulation by a few rather than what would occur with more competition. Companies should run clean, we should definitely take care of the environment, but this seems to be more than that.

And even worse, don't want to even get into it really, is the environmental regulations on refineries. So it comes to profit loss to ship our oil to other countries to have it refined (as we need it here), as we buy refined fuel back from other countries, and in some cases hostile countries. There was talk from the government to allow an additional refinery, but really who would want to take on such a venture? If I had the money I sure wouldn't, may as well just hand all the money over to the government and break even.

[Excision Rottun]

1979 Ixtoc I Spill compared to Deepwater Horizon spill

That was Then, This is Then (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHmhxpQEGPo)

[Daywolf]

1979 Ixtoc I Spill compared to Deepwater Horizon spill

That was Then, This is Then (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHmhxpQEGPo)Hmmm... well the transgender person said 30k barrels a day with the 1979 spill, but the deep water spill is actually around 100k a day as recent reports are saying. I mean the early estimates seemed odd, the pressure is very great compared to what they were reporting a few weeks ago regarding the spill estimate.

The technology has improved, such as with blow-out bags, but we are talking a much stronger pressure release, one that can actually cut through thick steel. I think any deep water well has a potential to blow, though I've heard there were some pretty poor measures taken to prevent such a thing from happening in this case.

But aint it so nice that while over the weekeknd about 200k barrels of oil gushed into the Gulf while British Petroleum CEO Tony Hayward had time for a yacht race while Obama was playing golf?
:mad:

[Excision Rottun]

But aint it so nice that while over the weekeknd about 200k barrels of oil gushed into the Gulf while BP CEO Tony Hayward had time for a yacht race while Obama was playing golf?
:mad:

Nice...Best quote so far, Tony Hayward "I want my life back."

Ya...so do all the people whose lives are actually fucked from this.

Or maybe, you know, the 11 people who DIED.

[Daywolf]

Nice...Best quote so far, Tony Hayward "I want my life back."

Ya...so do all the people whose lives are actually fucked from this.

Or maybe, you know, the 11 people who DIED.
Well Tony is British (British Petroleum), so I guess its a matter of "can't see it from my house". I wonder if he would have taken the weekend off if it was washing up on the shores of England and destroying their fishing industry. Obama has no excuse as usual, he's just a cheer leader by trade. I'm sure all the clean up jobs will factor into his positive job creation report efforts. Maybe they can dump kool-aid on the spill and make everything better. Little kiss on the forehead. Awwww... all better now.

[Zordana]

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[Coalrymer]

Yes we all die...



Sorry couldn't get it out of my head... had to be typed.

[Taxi]

Raining oil in Louisiana?

http://jalopnik.com/5570961/its-raining-oil-in-louisiana

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlC9W8EqRUQ&feature=related

[Toony]

Where's Kanye west when we need him....

[Taxi]

More catastropic news that is slipping under the media radar:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF2SeJmbjKY&feature=player_embedded#!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTZqsN_rdGg&feature=related (keep in mind this is Jeff rense though, but the infolockdown and misinformation about the spill by BP doesnt help re-assure people)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZCvMQhbH-8&feature=player_embedded#!

[Eyry]

ZOMG

http://www.wimp.com/oilspills/

[Loke]

You know, I wish you all would make up your minds. First everyone is angry about how expensive oil is. Now it is legitimately falling from the sky and people are all up in arms about it. Seriously - you just can't please some people.