BRONKUS

[The Ban Hammer]

Too long have our lands been tarnished by the plagues of scum...

Too long have they gone unnoticed...

Scum are roaming freely across our lands...

Unchecked, unchallenged, training at will...

You are banished forthwith from the kingdom of PVP, and all its domains, under pain of death...

You have no authority here!!! Your orders mean nothing...

These orders do not come from me. It comes from the GM...

_____________________________________________

Today Bronkus <Nihilum> Found himself in SolB with 3 members of an opposing force. He took the liberty of PVP that was given to him and lost a sad fight against 3 members of an opposing force... Distraught and upset, he figured he cannot win versus 3 members of this opposing force (Ench/Sham/Cleric) (Seen in Video 1 his terrible PVP attempt) He then takes it upon himself to bring ALL SolB mobs to the Efreeti area and FD them onto the opposing force that is there... (See Video 2) all to say in the end that he just simply wanted to PVP us, such innocence, pure holy goodness, of all that is saint... Bronkus, you are a tranquil monk, you are well aware of the rules of the brotherhood, and of this server.

I have brought you fourth for JUDGMENT.

I pity your attempt at your plea for innocence...

http://i49.tinypic.com/2d8rp6x.jpg

Here he asks to help me on my corpse recovery... cus he was just trying to be a pal all along and be nice! LOL

I call this picture "Zero Percent Concerned"

http://i45.tinypic.com/2wq4fnm.jpg

Below are Video 1 (Legit PVP) & Video 2 (Blatant solo train)

Video 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvSOUwCU90M)
Video 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDi-hGWjv8c)

[Pitborn]

Insurance confirmed instaplugging in Overthere last night.

No clean whistles in sight.

[Rettii]

You don't give a fuck about Sirken? That's like saying you don't give a fuck about God. You will join your fellow sinners in hell. The prophecy is coming true.

[Rettii]

Saw destin/ender 2 boxing to port himself also. Ezpk has the time stamp.

[Nirgon]

Put this in petition/exploit.

Amelinda isn't the GM here anymore.

Sirken will respond and deal with accordingly.

[Yagebasto]

Video 2 isnt working. All i saw was wycelf panicking crying for heals.

[Yagebasto]

lol video 2 now removed by user

[The Ban Hammer]

Video 2 confirmed working

[Nirgon]

Edit: Vid works now! Guilty as hell!

[The Ban Hammer]

Had to edit the link on youtube, because upload failed, should work fine now.

[SamwiseRed]

both vids work for me.

[gloinz]

pvp champ analysis:
looks like someone is extremely mad after being slewn and rages in tells to bronkus, finally attempts to get conqueror banned rather then pvp it out like a champ

[Nirgon]

I don't see him anywhere in vid2 bud.

Far as I am concerned someone hit him while he was fd'd or he pulled pet into some shit and FD'd.. also allowed by rules here.

That said, see what else Sirken can determine from logs if anything.

[Jenni D]

trains & racism are fine here. how you dont know this by now astounds me.

[The Ban Hammer]

No reason to argue Nirgon, you're right there are many ways this scenario can play out... But it's simple when there is 1 monk and a group - what the monks intentions are... What makes me LOL is his tells...

Gloinz, you sadly defending Nihilum is predictable. I just wish you could read well enough to decipher fact from fiction. I'm in no way mad, nor do I care if this results in a ban or temporary suspension.

This is just a little project I'm going to work on to hone my skills in video editing, (starting from the bottom up)

Gonna clean dat scum right off this server boat hull.

:p
:p
:p

[Rettii]

Agree w Nirgon: take off forum post in petition thread

[The Ban Hammer]

Will do.

[Yagebasto]

still says its removed =\

[Nirgon]

Oh... upon further review of this...

I turned resolution up shit was grainy as fuck.

In the first second of this video he VERY BLATANTLY FDs that shit on them.

[Pudge]

how can you miss him in vid 2? he's right there at the beginning with a train on him.

[The Ban Hammer]

Oh... upon further review of this...

I turned resolution up shit was grainy as fuck.

In the first second of this video he VERY BLATANTLY FDs that shit on them.


Judged.

[LaMort]

that no train for me

video 1 show = bronkus run away from pvp
video 2 show =u aggroed ton of mob and u guys want to blame bronkus

not a train ! u guys just aggroed ton of mobs

[Pudge]

ya.. lol "you trained yourselves bros"

efreeti group trained themselves with a shitload of imps, at least 1 beetle, a bat, and then somehow transferred the agro from all of them to bronkus before getting killed themselves

[Yagebasto]

^called a pet, but then again i havent sen vid 2 yet D:

[The Ban Hammer]

LaMort - I would love your input, but you don't speak English or sleep regularly, so your opinion is about as good as the crack hoe that lives @ the gas station by my house.

[Lemons]

so dirty the whitle aint making no noise.

[The Ban Hammer]

Insurance confirmed instaplugging in Overthere last night.

No clean whistles in sight.

The Ban Hammer will look into this.

[Yagebasto]

wheres wyclef? id assume he died, bronk feigned his pet pet, then shit went on yall. not a train for putting pet on someone with aggro.

also why is it 2 videos. Id also assume you were recording the the entire time, but yet there seems to be a part missing from part 1 and 2. You are no longer in a group in the 2nd vid and i might be blind but i dont see wycelf. If he didnt die, then he maybe gated and said pet got aggro on you (train yourself) or on bronk (you trained him)

[Nirgon]

how can you miss him in vid 2? he's right there at the beginning with a train on him.

I had it on 240p like a moron.

[lite]

oh shit .........talk about incriminating

[watbab]

Waiting for the slap on the wrist.

[Elderan]

So the other night we go to KC and 4 of us run 4 Azrael out of the zone, who were camping the entrance. We take over the LCY. About an hour later 11 Azrael zone in and run right to us in the LCY training all the dogs from the entrance to the LCY onto us.

So how is this any different?

This is the PVP server. Unless someone is training a person who they are out of kill range with, with the intent to kill them and doing this repeated times I dont see any harm. This is the PVP server.

The first video clearly shows he clearly wanted PVP. The second one who knows maybe he got more aggro then he though he had. But the first one clearly showed he was wanting PVP 1 vs 3 and not with any intent of just training them.

Also you guys and fraps up all the time just makes me laugh.

[Nirgon]

Defending this if you've seen it clearly and know how far up that ramp you have to go with those mobs murders your credibility btw.

[SamwiseRed]

make training legal and i assure you, Nilly will be the ones crying the hardest.

[Smedy]

second video isn't working

edit: actually works now when logged on, guess the page served for guests are cached with the wrong link, just a fyi

[Smedy]

on topic, wow that's pretty bad, guys caught, wonder how much money he will have to send to get a light punishment

rmt dogs, shit's real

[Aprisle]

You guys are furious lol

[Smedy]

Another on topic: legalize training, fuck.

[Rettii]

Lol Nihilum forums re recent activities

[hagard]

HB, BARBARIAN THIS MAN FOR RUINING THE PRISTINE INTEGRITY OF THIS SERVER

[Smedy]

that no train for me

video 1 show = bronkus run away from pvp
video 2 show =u aggroed ton of mob and u guys want to blame bronkus

not a train ! u guys just aggroed ton of mobs

http://www.insidershealth.com/app/webroot/img/upload/wysiwyg/down-syndrome1.jpg

[fiegi 2.5]

this evidence is pretty damning

throw the book at this scum lord!!!!

[Tomatoking]

nice videos

however , no one gives a shit

[Bronkus]

Ok, heres the real story guys. I just need to clear this up. First of all this video shows nothing. I was grouped with these guys for hours. They let me know after 3 hours of grouping that Wyclef was going to auto win the eboots since he hasn't won any yet. I grew furious and my pixel lust shot through the roof, I repeated to beat on Wyclef and turned on the group. This is where you hear him in video 1 screaming that he was going down for sure. He somehow did manage to survive the unkillable t-staff that most lvl 60s cannot even survive and QQ about. (Chubs)

I got low health and was malo'ed and tash'd so I decided to zone out and get OOR heals. I ran back in and started attacking again. This is the part that is left out of the videos ON PURPOSE. Then they sent their pet on me and I ran away and FD. Some mobs started agroing around and their stupid pet basically trained me. I luckily have the monk FD skill and was able to save myself. If you look clearly at video 2, it starts precisely when I am FDING, NOT A SECOND before that to hide the true story here.

Anyways, Grats me on first post.

Wanyo /qu, Chubs down, Dazed messaging me while on CR crying.

GL and god bless.

[Sickpuppy]

Why would 3 azrael group with 1 nilly when they don't need you in their group I call bullshit haha good story tho

[Nirgon]

If you're being chased by a pet and run into mobs, those mobs stay on you.

Those mobs are hitting you in the first second of that video, you fd, they aggro on the group.

If the PET had aggro'd the mobs, they wouldn't have transferred to the group when you FD'd. Nice try.

[SamwiseRed]

Spin city up in this bitch.

[Sickpuppy]

Inc BAN HAMMER

[Tomatoking]

no one still cares , no one gets banned for shit.

server is exploit paradise , RMT Festival and nilly in bed with the boss

nothing to see here folks

[SamwiseRed]

no one still cares , no one gets banned for shit.

server is exploit paradise , RMT Festival and nilly in bed with the boss

nothing to see here folks

http://ilechoo.com/gallery/albums/gifs/owned.gif

[Tomatoking]

sam , if you dont play

why are you on this forum again?

[SamwiseRed]

had no idea playing was required to forumquest. seems to be a prereq you have failed to meet on multiple occasions. also i've been on red just not as a player.

[Tomatoking]

logged in right now , 55 cleric word

[SamwiseRed]

55 evil gnome cleric.

[Tomatoking]

tomatoes safe , was outside yesterday doing yardwork and gardening for 5.5 hours

fed them tied them picked a ton , tomatoes safe

cleric is the work of 2 months of being tabbed out and doing stuff on my website

fear not red pals

[Nirgon]

sam , if you dont play

why are you on this forum again?

^Banned for months, stayed very active on the forums

[Tomatoking]

This message is hidden because Nirgon is on your ignore list.


hahah u dum

[SamwiseRed]

^Banned for months, stayed very active on the forums

lies Samwise has been banned once for less than 24 hours.

[Tippett]

He's referring to Steaks, Samwise forum pvp level all time low.

Almost OOR

[The Ban Hammer]

Ok, heres the real story guys. I just need to clear this up. First of all this video shows nothing. I was grouped with these guys for hours. They let me know after 3 hours of grouping that Wyclef was going to auto win the eboots since he hasn't won any yet. I grew furious and my pixel lust shot through the roof, I repeated to beat on Wyclef and turned on the group. This is where you hear him in video 1 screaming that he was going down for sure. He somehow did manage to survive the unkillable t-staff that most lvl 60s cannot even survive and QQ about. (Chubs)

I got low health and was malo'ed and tash'd so I decided to zone out and get OOR heals. I ran back in and started attacking again. This is the part that is left out of the videos ON PURPOSE. Then they sent their pet on me and I ran away and FD. Some mobs started agroing around and their stupid pet basically trained me. I luckily have the monk FD skill and was able to save myself. If you look clearly at video 2, it starts precisely when I am FDING, NOT A SECOND before that to hide the true story here.

Anyways, Grats me on first post.

Wanyo /qu, Chubs down, Dazed messaging me while on CR crying.

GL and god bless.

You're insane, you were solo never grped with any of us, came for a round of PVP battles and lost (without training us)

There were 2 fights, and a period of time between each...

The videos were filmed as soon as you arrived.

You were in our group?

Huh?

[SamwiseRed]

He's referring to Steaks, Samwise forum pvp level all time low.

Almost OOR

oops. ya i dont forum pvp anymore. too busy being good manner

[Rettii]

Ok, heres the real story guys. I just need to clear this up. First of all this video shows nothing. I was grouped with these guys for hours. They let me know after 3 hours of grouping that Wyclef was going to auto win the eboots since he hasn't won any yet. I grew furious and my pixel lust shot through the roof, I repeated to beat on Wyclef and turned on the group. This is where you hear him in video 1 screaming that he was going down for sure. He somehow did manage to survive the unkillable t-staff that most lvl 60s cannot even survive and QQ about. (Chubs)

I got low health and was malo'ed and tash'd so I decided to zone out and get OOR heals. I ran back in and started attacking again. This is the part that is left out of the videos ON PURPOSE. Then they sent their pet on me and I ran away and FD. Some mobs started agroing around and their stupid pet basically trained me. I luckily have the monk FD skill and was able to save myself. If you look clearly at video 2, it starts precisely when I am FDING, NOT A SECOND before that to hide the true story here.

Anyways, Grats me on first post.

Wanyo /qu, Chubs down, Dazed messaging me while on CR crying.

GL and god bless.

hahaahaha

[Yagebasto]

If you're being chased by a pet and run into mobs, those mobs stay on you.

Those mobs are hitting you in the first second of that video, you fd, they aggro on the group.

If the PET had aggro'd the mobs, they wouldn't have transferred to the group when you FD'd. Nice try.

even if he sent the pet on bronk, then gated? that in itself is training no? purposely putting a mob on a player

[Nirgon]

He absolutely had aggro on those mobs and FD'd them on those guys, obvious.

[Littlegyno 9.0]

This man is innocent of all charges. So says the Emperor. Disperse or be charged with disturbing the peace.

[Pudge]

newb blueb nilli's.. you actually think you have a chance at convincing sirken this was not a train? the man's policed red servers for years. probably the most obvious train caught on tape on red99.

[Galacticus]

Something is fishy in video 2.

Normally if no one had any agro and the monk pulled in those mobs alone, they would stand there a second and then aggro on the closest person.

Watching the video you will notice all the mobs completely bipass the shaman who is closer and go right for the druid.

The mobs should have all aggroed on the closest pc around them, in fact it looks as though the druid is far out of range of agroing the train yet it still goes right for him.

Why doesnt the shaman get the aggro?

[Tomatoking]

i vote video is fishy also and it should have just been kept running

either way no one gona do shit rite? rite?

[Galacticus]

You can also see the bettle turn and walk away after the FD, then all of a sudden while the monk is still FD, it turns back and attacks. Looks like the train was agroed when it could have been avoided.

[Yagebasto]

You can also see the bettle turn and walk away after the FD, then all of a sudden while the monk is still FD, it turns back and attacks. Looks like the train was agroed when it could have been avoided.

Or the shaman died, and he was closer to the mobs than OP?

[SamwiseRed]

legalize it (training)

[The Ban Hammer]

I think it aggros me cause I am low level and low hp's but honestly logs will show, and justice will be had.

[Tomatoking]

there will be no justice

[Nirgon]

Its not as tasty as yers is but it'll work:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=f4RNb3tt0LM

Hopefully a week without fucking Tomatoking, pras CT

[MC Epic]

Something is fishy in video 2.

Normally if no one had any agro and the monk pulled in those mobs alone, they would stand there a second and then aggro on the closest person.

Watching the video you will notice all the mobs completely bipass the shaman who is closer and go right for the druid.

The mobs should have all aggroed on the closest pc around them, in fact it looks as though the druid is far out of range of agroing the train yet it still goes right for him.

Why doesnt the shaman get the aggro?

You sir, clearly do not understand EQ mechanics, and should educate yourself on the nuances of mob agro before spouting verbal diarhea and thinking out loud.

First, the mobs do stand there for a second, and do not go right for him. The beetle starts to walk back while the imps stand still.

Second, the "druid" you refer to is a CLERIC.

Third, the shaman is bypassed because the cleric is much lower level. Go ahead and test this with a lvl 58 and a sub-level-50. The cleric pops onto their agro list first due to lower level, regardless of proximity.

You can also see the bettle turn and walk away after the FD, then all of a sudden while the monk is still FD, it turns back and attacks. Looks like the train was agroed when it could have been avoided.

Really? Do you think that the beetle might have assisted the imps which agroed the druid-you-mean-cleric?

Think before you post, son.

[MC Epic]

Also, the cleric moved back immediately upon seeing Bronkus enter with train. He attempted to dodge the train but there was no possible way he could do so.

[Cwall 52.0]

legalize training imo but as long as it is against the rules that guy's fucked

[Galacticus]

You sir, clearly do not understand EQ mechanics, and should educate yourself on the nuances of mob agro before spouting verbal diarhea and thinking out loud.

First, the mobs do stand there for a second, and do not go right for him. The beetle starts to walk back while the imps stand still.

Second, the "druid" you refer to is a CLERIC.

Third, the shaman is bypassed because the cleric is much lower level. Go ahead and test this with a lvl 58 and a sub-level-50. The cleric pops onto their agro list first due to lower level, regardless of proximity.



Really? Do you think that the beetle might have assisted the imps which agroed the druid-you-mean-cleric?

Think before you post, son.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8qq0eZQzH1r987c3.png

[Tune]

videos show nothing, heh,

i was waiting for him to run up on you and FD with mobs

All i see is:

1) bronkus runs away from you

2) bronkus is laying there fded

0/10

[lite]

videos show nothing, heh,

i was waiting for him to run up on you and FD with mobs

All i see is:

1) bronkus runs away from you

2) bronkus is laying there fded

0/10

http://i.imgur.com/1UKKqIJ.jpg

yeah, he was TOTALLY laying there ...i think you might need new glasses

[lite]

actually, u probably see it just fine. but now that you know very well first hand, just how punishable training is when its frapsed, i'd be lying on his behalf also, with such condemning evidence.

[Nirgon]

The mobs just happened to hit him, so he ran next to the group and pilled them there (more lucky than exploit)

[Dullah]

videos show nothing, heh,

i was waiting for him to run up on you and FD with mobs

All i see is:

1) bronkus runs away from you

2) bronkus is laying there fded

0/10

This.

Wanyo trained a Nihilum group yesterday where he actually rounded mobs up, went past the party around a corner, and waited until the mobs were on top of the party before feigning.

No trains to be seen here.

[lite]

The mobs just happened to hit him, so he ran next to the group and pilled them there (more lucky than exploit)

no no ...as tune very clearly stated. bronkus was just laying there, a spot with 3 people from the opposing team is just an awesome spot to afk at ...wait nvm, he was PVPing them.. ever get FD'd to death?

[lite]

This.

Wanyo trained a Nihilum group yesterday where he actually rounded mobs up, went past the party around a corner, and waited to FD until the mobs were in the camp.

No trains to be seen here.

i'd like to see the fraps, same way we just delivered showing bronkus clearly training.

[Dullah]

Theres nothing clear about it, and you know it. Otherwise there'd be no need for you to keep posting it, desperately hoping that by sheer repetition you might subvert those that watch it.

I guess if you can't win on the battlefield, shit eaters will continue to come to the forums and whine to GMs about how big bad Nihilum are cheating, exploiting and rule-breaking to ease your conscience after being dominated.

[lite]

like ...do you actually think about this stuff before toy type it ? bronkus was just laying there.....total PVP behavior. 3 enemies, LET me lay here .... stay suspended

[Nirgon]

I don't care what Tune or Supreme (Donkeylips)


http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k275/laffingleo/Donkeylips.jpg


ever have to say in their guild's defense

[lite]

Theres nothing clear about it, and you know it. Otherwise there'd be no need for you to keep posting it, desperately hoping that by sheer repetition you might subvert those that watch it.

I guess if you can't win on the battlefield, shit eaters will continue to come to the forums and whine to GMs about how big bad Nihilum are cheating, exploiting and rule-breaking to ease your conscience after being dominated.

this is just as clear as arzak's COINSIDENTIAL decission to "FIX" sarnak faction the day after we acquire enough sarnak faction to start farming royals.

but just like with that, which is as clear as daylight... i guess there's nothing to be seen here either.

[Dullah]

"Like".. for all the viewer knows, you guys had mobs on you, he killed someone with agro, thus shifting the agro to himself and requiring him to feign death.

I'm sure thats what happened and now you guys take a doctored snippet of a fraps to maliciously seek revenge the only way you can... by the hands of a GM.

[lite]

"Like".. for all the viewer knows, you guys had mobs on you, he killed someone with agro, thus shifting the agro to himself and requiring him to feign death.

I'm sure thats what happened and now you guys take a doctored snippet of a fraps to maliciously seek revenge the only way you can... by the hands of a GM.

yeah, and let me guess .... tune's ban for training is just doctored footage as well ?

[Smedy]

rmt for a name change
play the box
profit

[Rettii]

tune hella active on forum when he has no bard to play heheheh

[Snufz]

Can hear tune wheezing in ts from here.

go outside.

[Graahle]

Dullah,

You're joking right? I'm not usually one to take sides, but come on bud.

[The Ban Hammer]

legalize training imo but as long as it is against the rules that guy's fucked

[The Ban Hammer]

This.

Wanyo trained a Nihilum group yesterday where he actually rounded mobs up, went past the party around a corner, and waited until the mobs were on top of the party before feigning.

No trains to be seen here.

Fraps or it did not happen

[The Ban Hammer]

"Like".. for all the viewer knows, you guys had mobs on you, he killed someone with agro, thus shifting the agro to himself and requiring him to feign death.

I'm sure thats what happened and now you guys take a doctored snippet of a fraps to maliciously seek revenge the only way you can... by the hands of a GM.

I bet you think 9/11 was an inside job.

How often do you worry about the Illuminati?

:confused:
:eek:
:confused:
:eek:
:confused:
:eek:

[heartbrand]

Training is one of the best parts of everquest, too many QQers here either control your zone or get the fuck out.

p.s. people who report trains are faggots who couldn't control dat zone
p.s.s make training legal

[Vile]

doesn't matter, right now its illegal and this dude got caught... nothing gonna happen anyway...

i guess, train on bros.

[heartbrand]

Slathar trains 24/7 you think a box emperor goes to the forums with tears? Naw dawg he moves his group and roots him with mobs on him or moves to zone in to kill him before the slathar express can start Rollin.

ITT bad players who couldn't defend their zone asking for outside help.

[Furniture]

so you try to 3v1 him and start crying when he trains you?

[Loli Pops]

http://i.imgur.com/7nPO4tV.jpg

[The Ban Hammer]

HE came to us 1v3 lol - lost obviously - decided to go back out of zone, heal up, and come back with a train.

The End.

[Twain]

Hugs tried to Train our group in seb twice last night. Look at all the forum posts we made. 0

[Elderan]

So basically what people are saying is this.

If a group is in a dungeon lets say Sebilis. Then you have to clear to that group to pvp them or invisibility to that group. If you aggro mobs on the way to PVP them and train them to that group then you are going to be suspended.

I think there is a pretty simple solution. If people are actually trying to pvp that group then bringing mobs might just happen and is ok. However if you are not trying to pvp and just intent to kill them with a train that is not ok.

Good example. In the video above it is clear that Bronkus was actively engaged with them in PVP. The second video shows some mobs aggroed during this process. But is still a continuation of this PVP act and therefore would be ok.

Hugs who trained us last night in Sebilis. There were 5 of us, he tried to run mobs to us and die. Never once actually trying to pvp us or cast a spell. This is clearly an intent to train a group and is not OK.

But really the whining on this server is really bad, some people just need to grow up.

[SamwiseRed]

So basically what people are saying is this.

If a group is in a dungeon lets say Sebilis. Then you have to clear to that group to pvp them or invisibility to that group. If you aggro mobs on the way to PVP them and train them to that group then you are going to be suspended.

I think there is a pretty simple solution. If people are actually trying to pvp that group then bringing mobs might just happen and is ok. However if you are not trying to pvp and just intent to kill them with a train that is not ok.

Good example. In the video above it is clear that Bronkus was actively engaged with them in PVP. The second video shows some mobs aggroed during this process. But is still a continuation of this PVP act and therefore would be ok.

Hugs who trained us last night in Sebilis. There were 5 of us, he tried to run mobs to us and die. Never once actually trying to pvp us or cast a spell. This is clearly an intent to train a group and is not OK.

But really the whining on this server is really bad, some people just need to grow up.

you dont know what you are asking for. you think hugs training is bad? lol if this shit is made legal there gonna be a lot of mad from both sides because the real trainers havent even stepped up to bat yet. please make training legal and let the ocean of tears swell.

[mwllowyellow2]

"Like".. for all the viewer knows, you guys had mobs on you, he killed someone with agro, thus shifting the agro to himself and requiring him to feign death.

I'm sure thats what happened and now you guys take a doctored snippet of a fraps to maliciously seek revenge the only way you can... by the hands of a GM.

You guys have been known to train just ask tune why his account is suspended.

[Elderan]

you dont know what you are asking for. you think hugs training is bad? lol if this shit is made legal there gonna be a lot of mad from both sides because the real trainers havent even stepped up to bat yet. please make training legal and let the ocean of tears swell.


I never said make it legal. I said there are several types of training. Only one of which should be illegal. The one in which the sole intention is to train mobs onto a group of people with the intent of the mobs to kill the people without any attempt to actually pvp.

Another example of what should be ILLEGAL training. Raid pulls X boss, they have lets say 20 people at him. 1 or 2 people run mobs to the raid with no real or actual attempt to pvp. The mobs kill the people.

Training that is kinda grey area but should be legal. Group is exping in a dungeon, lets say 6 people. A group of say 2-6 people zone in, run to them and start pvping. During this process they aggroed mobs on the way. The group wins the pvp battle but dies to the mobs. This should be legal as long as a real attempt to pvp happened.

I came from blue. Training happens 100x more there then here. But while people there might yell at someone for training they dont whine 1/10 as much as people do here about it and it happens a ton more there. They also dont fraps every stinking thing.

Sit at the zone in of COM on blue and you will get a train every 10 min. Simply you always need to be aware, here and there.

[Elderan]

You guys have been known to train just ask tune why his account is suspended.


They don't suspend people on blue for training. Doesn't happen.

If you are at a zone line, any zone line you have to be aware at all times for trains. It happens and it is your fault if you die to a train near a zone line.

I know people on red say all the time how much better they are compared to blue players. Well seems like in this case red players never learned that zone lines = trains.

[SamwiseRed]

ya i like that zoneline right next to efreeti. clearly you dont play here if you havent experienced the sol b train.

[Snufz]

Legalize it ill rez box this shit so hard

[mwllowyellow2]

If he wasn't training then how did he get a lava beetle to efreeti.

[Elderan]

ya i like that zoneline right next to efreeti. clearly you dont play here if you havent experienced the sol b train.

I was referring to the tune incident in which I was responding to in that reply.

My response earlier was clear in that Bronkus was engaging in PVP with this group as clearly shown in the first video.

[SamwiseRed]

shits gonna get real if training becomes legal.

[Bamzal Sherbet]

Hugs tried to Train our group in seb twice last night. Look at all the forum posts we made. 0


you just made one, right here. so thats 1.

edit: actually they are littered throughout this thread and multiple other threads.

You dumb

[mwllowyellow2]

I was referring to the tune incident in which I was responding to in that reply.

My response earlier was clear in that Bronkus was engaging in PVP with this group as clearly shown in the first video.

Tune was fraps training both sides of CoM/EJ in an attempt to kill an oor player hence why he was suspended.

[Elderan]

If he wasn't training then how did he get a lava beetle to efreeti.

He clearly stated he ran away from the 3 vs 1 after some fighting and a pet followed him. Then came back and mobs aggroed on him or the pet. Keep in mind there is a lava beetle and bats right across the lava from the are they were fighting in. So this all fits with the story.

This whole thing was one continuing act of legit PVP.

[Elderan]

Tune was fraps training both sides of CoM/EJ in an attempt to kill an oor player hence why he was suspended.

Does not matter if they were at the zone line. Unless you can show Tune telling the person hey I am going to train you and kill you it is impossible to know the persons intent.

[SamwiseRed]

please legalize it.

[SamwiseRed]

Titanuk has been waiting for this moment his entire life. Legalize it.

[mwllowyellow2]

Does not matter if they were at the zone line. Unless you can show Tune telling the person hey I am going to train you and kill you it is impossible to know the persons intent.

The GM's thought it was enough to suspend him so that should be enough reason for you lul. The GM's are not corrupt on here like most think although I do find it interesting about sundawg/arzak trying to mess with faction in chardok after azrael does the same pull tune did for so long.

[Xantille]

http://1-ps.googleusercontent.com/h/www.ridethepine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/blizzard.gif.pagespeed.ce.JX_EWWK5xE.gif

Server will burn if you allow training. BURN.

[Elderan]

The GM's thought it was enough to suspend him so that should be enough reason for you lul. The GM's are not corrupt on here like most think although I do find it interesting about sundawg/arzak trying to mess with faction in chardok after azrael does the same pull tune did for so long.

GMs are not perfect. They can sometimes interpret things wrong or just make a mistake.

As far as the faction changes I don't see how this will effect the killing of the royals terribly. Just do it like everyone on blue does it now. Isn't red players way better than blue players? Then the way blue does it should be cake for red players.

[mwllowyellow2]

GMs are not perfect. They can sometimes interpret things wrong or just make a mistake.

As far as the faction changes I don't see how this will effect the killing of the royals terribly. Just do it like everyone on blue does it now. Isn't red players way better than blue players? Then the way blue does it should be cake for red players.

I've never played blue so I have no idea how easy anything is done on that server, but I do know that we don't have over 1k players to choose from to zerg a target.

[Elderan]

I've never played blue so I have no idea how easy anything is done on that server, but I do know that we don't have over 1k players to choose from to zerg a target.

We normally do Royals with 6-10 people on blue, and we dont pull to the zone in area.

Zergs on blue are only done on FTE targets.

[Bamzal Sherbet]

http://1-ps.googleusercontent.com/h/www.ridethepine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/blizzard.gif.pagespeed.ce.JX_EWWK5xE.gif

i wonder what was going on in this gif?

[mwllowyellow2]

We normally do Royals with 6-10 people on blue, and we dont pull to the zone in area.

Zergs on blue are only done on FTE targets.

Like I said I have never played the server so not sure how things are done over there I can just go by what I've seen on forums/videos and what I hear about blue99, and I have yet to say red players are better at pve then blue. Most of the tactics on red where taken from blue.

[The Ban Hammer]

I was referring to the tune incident in which I was responding to in that reply.

My response earlier was clear in that Bronkus was engaging in PVP with this group as clearly shown in the first video.


Elderan how many times must I state that he the videos are TWO SEPARATE OCCASIONS, he loses one pvp battle, goes heals up comes back with mobs and FD's them on us and THEN attacks us.

[Elderan]

Elderan how many times must I state that he the videos are TWO SEPARATE OCCASIONS, he loses one pvp battle, goes heals up comes back with mobs and FD's them on us and THEN attacks us.

Considering this was all within a reasonable time frame I would consider it one pvp action.

What should have happened was this. Bronkus pvped with you he ran away. At that point you should have been on guard and watching. As soon as you saw him again you should have been ready to react. Personally I would have rooted him as he was running up the ramp.

It is clear you let you guard down and was caught with your pants down so to speak in one continuing pvp action.

Don't feel bad though, it happens. Next time just be more aware and be ready.

[The Ban Hammer]

LOLOL have you ever been to efreeti? he didn't come ramp, he came around the corner...


look at the video...if you know anything about efreeti, you would understand where he dragged the mobs in from, and his intentions in bringing them...

Also to add, all mobs were clear except for that hallway that leads around corner (aka the hallway he entered from)

you're clearly a fucking retard at EQ

[The Ban Hammer]

Also to add, all mobs were clear except for that hallway that leads around corner (aka the hallway he entered from)

you're clearly a fucking retard at EQ

that's why you see 1 bat 1 bug and 2 imps, (from the corner hallway) I wonder if that is a coincidence that he just happens to take the path where the floor falls through...he happens to go the more dangerous route to get to us?

You're fucking retarded trying to analyze this video like you're some CSI tech lol

[Elderan]

LOLOL have you ever been to efreeti? he didn't come ramp, he came around the corner...


look at the video...if you know anything about efreeti, you would understand where he dragged the mobs in from, and his intentions in bringing them...

Also to add, all mobs were clear except for that hallway that leads around corner (aka the hallway he entered from)

you're clearly a fucking retard at EQ

Yes lets have a contest about EQ from release to Velious knowledge. I will wage my accounts vs yours. Anytime you want to meet on team speak and do this please let me know. We can invite everyone to attend and put our accounts on an escrow service until the contest is over.

[SamwiseRed]

Yes lets have a contest about EQ from release to Velious knowledge. I will wage my accounts vs yours. Anytime you want to meet on team speak and do this please let me know. We can invite everyone to attend and put our accounts on an escrow service until the contest is over.

obvious basement dweller is obvious.

[Vile]

guys just root him! so ez lololol

[lite]

http://i.imgur.com/1UKKqIJ.jpg

[The Ban Hammer]

LOL VILE

[watbab]

Back and to the left. Back and to the left.

This shit's like the Zapruder film or something.

[Snufz]

Why argue with eldeman clearly a Moran.

[Pudge]

ederan man.. you tryin too hard. i bet all 36 your lifetime posts are in this thread. i dont know if you are actually trying to defend this train, or just trolling with the explanations you give

[SamwiseRed]

must be a nilly app.

[BigSlip]

confirmed train

[Elderan]

ederan man.. you tryin too hard. i bet all 36 your lifetime posts are in this thread. i dont know if you are actually trying to defend this train, or just trolling with the explanations you give

Ever since Me vs Abashi and Rangers vs Verant I have tried to stay away from public boards like this because I know how people are.

I came to this server from blue and I think I have a very clear unbiased perspective on how things work here. For me its clear this was a continuing PVP action and nothing more. It is also clear that the whining on this server is out of control and over the top and it is typically one sided.

One example is OOC.. people in OOC just calling people terrible racist names in the open. Then someone gets suspended for nothing more then mentioning a fact about someone which isnt terrible when taken in context.

If I ran this server I would remove global OOC and put in Global Auction, which can only be used for selling/buying items. I would also disable the forums for PVP for everything except WTB/WTS.

[SamwiseRed]

Ever since Me vs Abashi and Rangers vs Verant I have tried to stay away from public boards like this because I know how people are.

I came to this server from blue and I think I have a very clear unbiased perspective on how things work here. For me its clear this was a continuing PVP action and nothing more. It is also clear that the whining on this server is out of control and over the top and it is typically one sided.

One example is OOC.. people in OOC just calling people terrible racist names in the open. Then someone gets suspended for nothing more then mentioning a fact about someone which isnt terrible when taken in context.

If I ran this server I would remove global OOC and put in Global Auction, which can only be used for selling/buying items. I would also disable the forums for PVP for everything except WTB/WTS.

good thing you arent in charge, you sound like a real retard.

[Elderan]

good thing you arent in charge, you sound like a real retard.

Ya Sam,

I only have 16 years of MMO experience. I was only the first level 60 in EQ, I was only a player who was in on the first kill of almost ever major mob in everquest until I quit at the end of Velious. I was only an officer in fires of heavens during that time.

Geez I must know nothing about eq.

I only try to offer logic and ideas or solutions to issues based on the facts that I am aware of. You on the other hand just seem to troll and try and stir up problems.

[SamwiseRed]

most def a nilly app.

those 16 years sound like they were well spent. real life must have been thriving to afford someone with that much play time. wp.

[Vile]

Ya Sam,

I only have 16 years of MMO experience. I was only the first level 60 in EQ, I was only a player who was in on the first kill of almost ever major mob in everquest until I quit at the end of Velious. I was only an officer in fires of heavens during that time.

Geez I must know nothing about eq.

I only try to offer logic and ideas or solutions to issues based on the facts that I am aware of. You on the other hand just seem to troll and try and stir up problems.

WE GOT AN EQ BADASSS OVER HERE GUYS

[heartbrand]

ederan man.. you tryin too hard. i bet all 36 your lifetime posts are in this thread. i dont know if you are actually trying to defend this train, or just trolling with the explanations you give

defend the zone or gtfo

[Elderan]

Sorry Bro

[SamwiseRed]

i said well played? calm down buddy i was saying it must be nice to have that much play time. not sure why you are getting defensive at someone tipping their hate to you.

[Tippett]

Elderan confirmed kinda mad

[Dullah]

They don't suspend people on blue for training. Doesn't happen.

If you are at a zone line, any zone line you have to be aware at all times for trains. It happens and it is your fault if you die to a train near a zone line.

I know people on red say all the time how much better they are compared to blue players. Well seems like in this case red players never learned that zone lines = trains.

Thats why its really suspicious when people here are banned for "training" people while zoning out of a zone.

A zone out is where people zone out. You can't whine about trains because your box alt is sitting at the zone in when people zone out... or apparently you can because the rules are being redefined as we speak.

[Bronkus]

First off, I look great in my yellow plate armor. I love the publicity, thank you all. Also, thanks for the Eboots that dropped 5 minutes after I managed to kill all 3 of you. And a big thanks to Sealer who left Dazed on a 3 hour corpse run.

Now lets analyze the following hypothetical scenarios:

1. What if a FD class has a pet attack him and hes near mobs. Is it his responsibility to zone out and protect the cry babies?
2. Can I intimidate your pet like I did in the PVP battle in video 1.5 which you seemed to edit out? Can anyone fear pets? .
3. If a mob spawns directly on top of a class while fighting in PVP and they utilize the FD Skill/Spell, why is it their responsibility to protect their enemy if they would utilize the same skill in a PVE environment? Does this mean I can just turn on fraps and follow around the next person to FD 3 mobs and claim a train.
4. I can list 20 other scenarios. No body is getting suspended or banned and If I do, I'll take it like a man and play my Azrael alt.

Lastly, nice GOTMD in the fraps and why wasn't I rooted with both Tash/Malo on me? Bads bads bads.

[Rettii]

'exploiting a game feature for your advantage' can be very subjective at times.


typical Nihilum

[Elderan]

typical Nihilum


Typical person who has killed many bosses in eq.

[SamwiseRed]

through exploitation no doubt

[Sirken]

videos go in petition threads