How to kill Trakanons [Archive]

49shadesofgay

02-10-2013, 10:30 PM

This is for you FE, the positions and strategies are slightly different however there are lots of valuable tips for you in the following material.

Let's start with a clear cut case of: knowing when to pull the trigger

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Note what Daltheb did here. Now as some of you may well know, Daltheb is a man. A man doesn't sit around and let TMO snag FTE on his raid mobs because his raid leader, in this case Perun, is dragging ass. A man gets in there and snags FTE. I know a lot of times that now DA tanking to buy your guild that extra setup time is a valuable strategy.. which brings me to point #2 and a solid counter to that: He who javs, loots

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As this video clearly demonstrates, TMO will attempt to steal FTE in any way possible. In this example they had rogues in the lair waiting, as well as Slippery getting ready to try to steal. A well placed forged javelin and a well disciplined raid force however saved the day. This earned Daltheb the nickname "fastest jav in the west".

Another important thing, given the intensity and speed with which these engages happen are: clear and precise orders

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This video clearly demonstrates how when too many people begin barking orders things can go awry. You need 2-3 clear signal callers, and no other chatter in Vent. Note that there are only maybe 5 different people that speak throughout this engage.

Common sense will carry you far. Don't be stupid:

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This was a near wipe because people were getting low hp agro, early shroom on tank, and a jugg train at the raid. This will cause you wipe. Healers keep people out of low HP agro range, and have someone ready to take possible trains away from your raid. , You want clean, quick, and effecient kills:

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Note how fast Trakanon dies. You ideally want to kill this guy within at least the first 30 seconds your entire guild is on it. Anything lower is ideal, and there are times when youre going to be able to stretch it to ~1min or so, but his AE and shrooming can get nasty. The quicker, the better.

Celebrate your victories:

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Victory is good. There is nothing better than killing a dragon while your opponent is forced to watch. There is no shame in celebrating, so when it happens make sure you run to RnF and talk shit, cheer in Vent, and taunt via tells/ooc. Let them know that you have bested them.

This last one I hesitate to post publically.. because it's very difficult, but when executed perfectly you are a God. When executed poorly, you are a dumbass and will most likely die. Unless you're a monk.

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Pulling agro RIGHT before shroom so that your tank does not get shroomed is a pro move, virtually guaranteeing a victory.

Learning from past mistakes, and executing properly, I believe that you, FE can begin to kill the mighty Trakanon on a semi-regular basis.

Best of luck.

Heebee

02-10-2013, 10:32 PM

Quality post. A+++++++++++++++++++++++

Alarti0001

02-10-2013, 10:34 PM

This is for you FE, the positions and strategies are slightly different however there are lots of valuable tips for you in the following material.

Let's start with a clear cut case of: knowing when to pull the trigger

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Note what Daltheb did here. Now as some of you may well know, Daltheb is a man. A man doesn't sit around and let TMO snag FTE on his raid mobs because his raid leader, in this case Perun, is dragging ass. A man gets in there and snags FTE. I know a lot of times that now DA tanking to buy your guild that extra setup time is a valuable strategy.. which brings me to point #2 and a solid counter to that: He who javs, loots

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As this video clearly demonstrates, TMO will attempt to steal FTE in any way possible. In this example they had rogues in the lair waiting, as well as Slippery getting ready to try to steal. A well placed forged javelin and a well disciplined raid force however saved the day. This earned Daltheb the nickname "fastest jav in the west".

Another important thing, given the intensity and speed with which these engages happen are: clear and precise orders

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This video clearly demonstrates how when too many people begin barking orders things can go awry. You need 2-3 clear signal callers, and no other chatter in Vent. Note that there are only maybe 5 different people that speak throughout this engage.

Common sense will carry you far. Don't be stupid:

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This was a near wipe because people were getting low hp agro, early shroom on tank, and a jugg train at the raid. This will cause you wipe. Healers keep people out of low HP agro range, and have someone ready to take possible trains away from your raid. , You want clean, quick, and effecient kills:

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Note how fast Trakanon dies. You ideally want to kill this guy within at least the first 30 seconds your entire guild is on it. Anything lower is ideal, and there are times when youre going to be able to stretch it to ~1min or so, but his AE and shrooming can get nasty. The quicker, the better.

Celebrate your victories:

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Victory is good. There is nothing better than killing a dragon while your opponent is forced to watch. There is no shame in celebrating, so when it happens make sure you run to RnF and talk shit, cheer in Vent, and taunt via tells/ooc. Let them know that you have bested them.

This last one I hesitate to post publically.. because it's very difficult, but when executed perfectly you are a God. When executed poorly, you are a dumbass and will most likely die. Unless you're a monk.

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Pulling agro RIGHT before shroom so that your tank does not get shroomed is a pro move, virtually guaranteeing a victory.

Learning from past mistakes, and executing properly, I believe that you, FE can begin to kill the mighty Trakanon on a semi-regular basis.

Best of luck.

Shut up uthgaard

Alarti0001

02-10-2013, 10:35 PM

unless you are gonna come back to help dev --- we need u!

49shadesofgay

02-10-2013, 10:39 PM

There is an unspoken rule here, which should be observed at every raid: ALWAYS run Fraps. Screenshots/logs/word of mouth, all that shit is trash.

Record what happens so that you have proof when Slippery/Lenfer/Trystych are training your raids, and they will receive bans. Bitch about it on internet forums and post logs or screenshots, and you will just look whiny.

Always. Fraps.

49shadesofgay

02-10-2013, 10:45 PM

Shut up uthgaard

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jkfranklin

02-10-2013, 10:52 PM

so this is what its like to kill the same fucking dragon for 2 years straight that drops the same shit?

OforOppression

02-10-2013, 11:00 PM

Slippery

We don't talk about Slippery. Unfortunate accident, that.

Recycled Children

02-10-2013, 11:11 PM

Zeelot

02-10-2013, 11:25 PM

I miss the old Trak :( He was a man.

quido

02-10-2013, 11:26 PM

Trakanon was tougher back then, and we were shittier.

Ask the TR who wiped to him a few times after the hoop nerf. He used to lifetap like a motherfucker.

arsenalpow

02-11-2013, 12:06 AM

you kill trakanons with 150 other people while completely lagged out, then let a GM sort out the FTE 10 minutes later

http://i.imgur.com/N4Ijf0r.jpg

quido

02-11-2013, 12:10 AM

I want to hear some comments on a known RMTer getting FTE!

kotton05

02-11-2013, 12:10 AM

trak's looking into my soul

Recycled Children

02-11-2013, 12:12 AM

you kill trakanons with 150 other people while completely lagged out, then let a GM sort out the FTE 10 minutes later

What part of that scenario makes any guild feel accomplished? What part of that scenario is fun? Do you even need resist gear at that point?

jkfranklin

02-11-2013, 12:13 AM

http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s658/md7156/demotivational-posters-its-only-ears_zpsa720b552.jpg

49shadesofgay

02-11-2013, 12:36 AM

Please do not derail this thread, let's stay on topic.

This thread is for tips on slaying the mighty Trakanon, not TMO zerging him down 1.5+ yrs ago, or people wiping to him with/without hoops/cheats/splots/perun's maps.

We are trying to help an up-and-coming guild out, so please FE if you have any questions feel free to ask. There is plenty of research material available on how to do this, you just have to seek it out.

We all want you to succeed.

I look forward to monitoring your continued development.

jkfranklin

02-11-2013, 12:39 AM

Why do yo care so much about 13 year old pixels?

49shadesofgay

02-11-2013, 12:56 AM

[img]tmocares.jpg[img]

quido

02-11-2013, 01:12 AM

Also FE: I'm going to be bringing up my server here in a few minutes. One of your monks was asking me about my box and said he was interested in checking out VP and ToV - I invite you all to do the same! Unfortunately VP is the revamped version so the spawns and such are all messed up, but you can still get a feel for the layout of the zone. I promise I won't send you packets of death. PM for details if you need help.

Enygma

02-11-2013, 01:35 AM

I miss the old Trak :( He was a man.

^ I support this message.

Godefroi

02-11-2013, 01:50 AM

Also FE: I'm going to be bringing up my server here in a few minutes. One of your monks was asking me about my box and said he was interested in checking out VP and ToV - I invite you all to do the same! Unfortunately VP is the revamped version so the spawns and such are all messed up, but you can still get a feel for the layout of the zone. I promise I won't send you packets of death. PM for details if you need help.

Hey Napoléon

I Hate to bring this up but we already have a legit one where we are practicing :(

More luck for velious maybe ?

Ah there aint no no CSR zones in veliois so nm

quido

02-11-2013, 01:53 AM

lol Visceral you're such a liar and a troll

jkfranklin

02-11-2013, 01:54 AM

Fail

Samrothstein

02-11-2013, 01:55 AM

I miss the old Trak :( He was a man.

Whenever they get his resist check right and patch in Shadoo/Resist poison not stacking... there will be a glorious Trakanon to engage.

Kevynne

02-11-2013, 01:59 AM

trak's looking into my soul

Hailto

02-11-2013, 02:02 AM

How big of a process is it connecting to this server Jeremy? I'd check it out for shits and gigs

eqmaze

02-11-2013, 08:21 AM

What part of that scenario makes any guild feel accomplished?

2x JBBP, Guts and 3x tooth tonight says otherwise.

But ehhh...Not gonna brag about it like TMO, it wasn't batphoned, and it didn't imply logging on 10 minutes earlier.

You can proceed and go back to sucking dicks and eating your xanax pills.

yup...

eqmaze

02-11-2013, 08:23 AM

and no u dont need resists cuz Trak didnt even AE when Zade spawned him =p

Alarti0001

02-11-2013, 09:29 AM

and no u dont need resists cuz Trak didnt even AE when Zade spawned him =p

whoa whoa whoa... halt!

Alarti0001

02-11-2013, 09:31 AM

Hey Napoléon

I Hate to bring this up but we already have a legit one where we are practicing :(

More luck for velious maybe ?

Ah there aint no no CSR zones in veliois so nm

Hmm Visc claims getsome has been logging into FE vent yesterday, today they are practicing in VP. Is it the fabled xzerion VP box that was made with p99 mechanics so TR could get an early jump!>?

Hailto

02-11-2013, 11:47 AM

and no u dont need resists cuz Trak didnt even AE when Zade spawned him =p

Yeah, it would be nice to feel like you actually got to kill some of these raid mobs instead of just a 30 second lagged out poopsock kill, but it is what it is.

Kruel

02-11-2013, 12:51 PM

TR had a unfair advantage... big Minten was at those raids doing big things!

I miss those days - we had like a dream team of P99 all in one guild.:cool:

bluejam

02-11-2013, 02:46 PM

Also FE: I'm going to be bringing up my server here in a few minutes. One of your monks was asking me about my box and said he was interested in checking out VP and ToV - I invite you all to do the same! Unfortunately VP is the revamped version so the spawns and such are all messed up, but you can still get a feel for the layout of the zone. I promise I won't send you packets of death. PM for details if you need help.
http://www.eqemulator.org/index.php?pageid=serverinfo&worldid=594

49shadesofgay

02-12-2013, 07:50 PM

bump