Server split for blue?

[Cippofra]

Lets start off with my normal disclaimer. It wont work but I say it anyway. Keep your flaming crying and bitching rants to yourself or rnf. I dont care for your retarded childish diatribe.

I think the servers population is getting far too high. At a minimum twice what it should be. this environment is perfect for hard core power gamers. The population for you only means that you make a lot more money. But for casual gamers it means you have to farm gems and fs weapons twice as long. It means grouping in any spot where exp or loot is decent is impossible because it is taken by power levelers and farmers. I think a server split tailored to casual gamers (raid calenders would be a good start) would be a great addition. Now i realize this will never ever happen. Just wondering how many others feel the same way

[Glasken]

Lets start off with my normal disclaimer. It wont work but I say it anyway. Keep your flaming crying and bitching rants to yourself or rnf. I dont care for your retarded childish diatribe.

I think the servers population is getting far too high. At a minimum twice what it should be. this environment is perfect for hard core power gamers. The population for you only means that you make a lot more money. But for casual gamers it means you have to farm gems and fs weapons twice as long. It means grouping in any spot where exp or loot is decent is impossible because it is taken by power levelers and farmers. I think a server split tailored to casual gamers (raid calenders would be a good start) would be a great addition. Now i realize this will never ever happen. Just wondering how many others feel the same way

A second blue progression server beginning with classic would be great for those players who didn't get the early start on blue prime. One if the reasons I rolled a red character was to experience the progression from release onward. PvP isn't much my style though. I think a beta blue server starting all over would be good for both types of players, casual and hard core, as well as lay the groundwork for what will happen when Velious begins to grow stale.

Beta Blue wouldn't require much effort since the coding for progression is already in place. I support this idea.

[Lord_Snow]

I second this

[Tecmos Deception]

Population should be 50-100% higher than it is right now, assuming the server will remain physically stable!

[Captain Faceplant]

A lot of people around is, dare I say it, classic. And is basically a miracle, and is awesome. Big fat no to this idea.

[Tenlaar]

I, personally, would love the chance to get in on the initial wave of a new start.

[Ravager]

I like the population the way it is. It's far better for leveling toons. Were you playing 6 or so months ago when the pop was 400 on its best nights? It sucked for leveling because most of that pop was 50+. Not to mention this pop is helping out our Euro and Asian friends a ton, because they have more folks on during their times too.

[Ele]

Pretty sure they have intentions to release a true to schedule server once all the bugs and patches have been worked up and lined out.

[Tecmos Deception]

Casuals who ask for a new start are just being naive.

Obviously a new server will attract hardcore players just like casuals, and while the casual masses are leveling at 1/4 the speed they do here because there are 400 of them below level 10 struggling to find anything at all to kill, all the while being without friendly high-levels to buff and offer handouts and sell mid-level gear at low prices, the hardcore players will have jumped ahead already and will proceed to monopolize the same camps that they already do on blue.

[Ravager]

Also, even at prime time with 1k online, there are plenty of deserted or low pop zones, many that even have good loot to farm or fantastic ZEM. Sure, it's harder to farm seafuries, hbc's and fbss's, but Norrath is still a big place.

[Splorf22]

I think we will need and might actually see a split when Velious releases. 1k is actually a very nice population level for an everquest server, the problem is the distribution of levels.

Otherwise I think pretty much all of your feedback has been correct.

[eqmaze]

what if TMO just ruled both server? Make a 3rd?

[Danth]

While I neither support nor oppose this request offhand, I'll point out that typical concurrent server populations during the classic era were often in the 2000-2500 range. The crowded servers flirted with 3000; remember that the Sony server select screen displayed populations back then. The PvP servers tended to be a little lower, usually in the 1500 range. P1999 at its highest is still uncrowded by classic standards.

That being said, I wager we have a much different population breakdown; things are very top-heavy here. That's a serious problem during the Kunark era due to that expansion's relative inadequacy in terms of content for 55+. Things should open up more during Velious.

Danth

[Aroith]

nothing worse than a low populated server. Would suck splitting servers then when population starts to die out like it does every summer each server would be stuck with a couple hundred.

[Tierael]

I'd love to get in on a new wave. I kicked myself when I saw that I came to P99 3 years late!!

[Kevynne]

new wave=bad idea.
I understand that some people kick themselves for missing the beginning but that is there loss.
Would verant have done this if people joined mid-velious? no.
Server is relatively un-populated compared to live standards. (kunark era and now standards)
It is a miracle that some people have left CEQ/PEQ/EZ/THF(or w/e the other ez server is) and joined p99.
No server split.
We tried that once. and look at what red has become.

[senna]

Not gonna lie, I would love to start over on a fresh server in vanilla eq

[Glasken]

We tried that once. and look at what red has become.

...what red has become.

...red...

red

[Daliant17447]

The P99 pop cannot support more than 1 server, red99 is proof of that. Splitting the population up even more is a bad idea and simply won't happen. High population is a much better problem to have than low population. If you are kicking yourself for finding P99 "late" and really wish you could roll on a fresh server start, then make sure you are ready for EQC when it comes out. Until then enjoy P99 for what it is. Not trying to knock what the P99 devs have done here, but EQC will be more true to what classic actually was, primarily because it is designed around the trilogy client rather than titanium.

[Tierael]

The P99 pop cannot support more than 1 server, red99 is proof of that. Splitting the population up even more is a bad idea and simply won't happen. High population is a much better problem to have than low population. If you are kicking yourself for finding P99 "late" and really wish you could roll on a fresh server start, then make sure you are ready for EQC when it comes out. Until then enjoy P99 for what it is. Not trying to knock what the P99 devs have done here, but EQC will be more true to what classic actually was, primarily because it is designed around the trilogy client rather than titanium.

where does one find more information on EQC?

[August]

where does one find more information on EQC?

I remember visiting EQC forums the day I got engaged. At that point, it had previously been PEQ and then became EQC sometime later. I believe it is running just shy on ~6 years now since they launched their vision. They have -two- devs who work when they can and they will not accept new devs even though they may be qualified *cough* *cough* to do so.

I really, really hope that it comes out one day. But there's a reason I don't visit that site anymore.

To answer your question, you should probably just google the phrase. Search engines, man.

[BigSlip]

play the pvp server instead

[hdawg06]

The live servers definitely had more people on them than are currently playing. I think opening up another server would be a horrible idea.

[Vladesch]

I'm rather enjoying how I can get pickup groups now, but it's not as good as it should be. Outside peak hours it becomes impossible in many zones. Take lake of ill omen. During peak hours you might have 2, maybe even 3 groups running there. That's not bad. However once you're past about 2am it will drop off to a couple of people soloing.

I guess that's not bad if you only play peak hours, but for those of us in different time zones it's pretty hopeless. I used to really enjoy it on live when there would basically be groups to join at any time of the day. If anything I think the population could do with a bit of an increase.

The idea of starting a new server for those who weren't here at the beginning is flawed. What happens after the server has been running a year or two? Start another one for the new new players? and so on.

I realize halving the population is nice for some things. Lets you camp things that are hard to camp now. I like the idea of not having to fight over camps too, but it hurts grouping too much.

[Kevynne]

I'm rather enjoying how I can get pickup groups now, but it's not as good as it should be. Outside peak hours it becomes impossible in many zones. Take lake of ill omen. During peak hours you might have 2, maybe even 3 groups running there. That's not bad. However once you're past about 2am it will drop off to a couple of people soloing.

I guess that's not bad if you only play peak hours, but for those of us in different time zones it's pretty hopeless. I used to really enjoy it on live when there would basically be groups to join at any time of the day. If anything I think the population could do with a bit of an increase.

The idea of starting a new server for those who weren't here at the beginning is flawed. What happens after the server has been running a year or two? Start another one for the new new players? and so on.

I realize halving the population is nice for some things. Lets you camp things that are hard to camp now. I like the idea of not having to fight over camps too, but it hurts grouping too much.

This.
We're all human and we naturally want to socialize and that's why we find soloing so kind numbingly boring and prefer to group.
Must dungeons seem to Die right after peak time ends (guks solb bf Kurns unrest just a few)

That being said. Fuck the pvp server. I love red99 but red99 is such trash now.its circling the drain. So lets just merger red into blue. Bam problem solved. +150-200 pop. Closer to live numbers. (Rp wise were avg now.. Fv was always empty) we all want to group and the Aussies/Asians/euros who aren't the majority of North Americans and play during our down time can actually enjoy the server more.

[Captain Faceplant]

Another thing about Vanilla-- if overcrowding is your problem, then just wait until the entire server is packed into lguk and solB. (With a few brave souls slugging it out in KK). That rose-colored shine will wear off quick.

When Kunark was introduced one of its goals was to solve overcrowding, and it did that as well as any expansion could. There are new dungeons for every level, outdoor zones for every level, everything. Bunch of new raid mobs. Arguably not enough raid mobs.

Velious solves that nicely, with an expansion that's about 50% raid mobs. Sure, the top tiers will have them on lockdown in no time, because hookers and blow can only quell the urges for so long until you start stuffing the basement freezer with hitchhikers. But still. It's as good as it gets.

If they do start some meta progression server, I hope the two servers get merged at the end. Because really, it's a miracle that this many people are here. Come on. This is like starting an original Nintendo fan club and having 1,000 people show up to be Player 2 every night.

[Noselacri]

I used to play, then didn't play for like two years. I check the forum every six months or so just to have a look, but what keeps me from playing again is the fact that there's just no way to catch up now and the endgame is completely monopolized. I don't know if splitting the server in two would actually do more good than bad, but it would absolutely get someone like me to come back. A new server, a reset button, a way to be there from the start again. I'd play that, not the current P99 where you're absolutely nobody if you weren't there all along. Maybe opening a secondary classic server that emulates the live timeline, just so there aren't two identical servers competing for the exact same players. If the secondary server is always an expansion behind, it seems like it would cause less conflict.

What I would really love is a secondary server with legal multiboxing. P99 has always been borderline unplayable for non-Americans because the population is way, way below critical mass during off-peak hours. I really miss boxing, it was always an enjoyable experience. I fully see why it isn't wanted on P99, but maybe a boxing server would not only provide a secondary option but also lessen the prevalence of people with dishonest IP exemptions on P99. EQ is a really primitive game and boxing makes it complex enough to approach the skill requirments of more modern games that people have become used to. I love EQ's content but I almost fall asleep playing it because the gameplay with one character is so basic and passive.

PS: red99 was a failure not because there weren't enough people for two servers but because it was infested from the start with the most intolerable people on the internet and because the devs completely ignored it. They launched it and promptly abandoned it. Also because they were experimenting with some fucked up resist system and class balance was even worse than it was on live. What it did prove was that there were plenty of people willing to play a fresh server, but that server turned out to be broken and not worth anybody's time.

[Noselacri]

While I neither support nor oppose this request offhand, I'll point out that typical concurrent server populations during the classic era were often in the 2000-2500 range. The crowded servers flirted with 3000; remember that the Sony server select screen displayed populations back then. The PvP servers tended to be a little lower, usually in the 1500 range. P1999 at its highest is still uncrowded by classic standards.Danth

This server has always been much more top-heavy than live servers. There might have been twice as many players on a typical server back then, but 80% of them were dicking around at level 40 seeing the sights and socializing. On P99, everyone is trying to be Furor.

[Picks]

Another progression blue server. Cannnot ask for this enough.

[Nogdar]

Velious solves that nicely, with an expansion that's about 50% raid mobs. Sure, the top tiers will have them on lockdown in no time, because hookers and blow can only quell the urges for so long until you start stuffing the basement freezer with hitchhikers.

The real question is, why would you want a freezer in Velious!

On a more serious note, even though the previous comment of Noselacri pushes it way too far saying you're nobody on p99 if you missed the start (I came in years too late and I don't share that feeling, happy with my guild and stuff), I think a new server with a fresh start would be cool, even if identical to current blue in terms of rules & expansion progression.

Ah and also, NO NO NO NO to two boxing, and I'm not on american timezone x)

[Rhambuk]

I was around for the start of p99 so my view may be different than those that didnt.

however i remember running through racial cities and players would just be there. you could walk into any city and there would be players working on tradeskills dueling etc, most cities i walk into now are barren. Nothing major it was just nice to see busy cities

[Swish]

More population for the existing server then. I'd say until you reach 2000 (around what vanilla EQ had at peak times on most of its servers) there should be no chance of a server split.

People also think that somehow if you make a new server that "TMO" won't happen again. It will.

[Itap]

Everything I wanted to say has been said already ITT. I'd rather have an overpopulated server than an under. Look at red, having uber gear is useless if there is nobody around to show it off to.

[feanan]

First, you can't hold up red as a reason why a second blue server wouldn't work.
Second, nobody mentioned TMO as a reason.

Third, I don't think you can compare p99 to a server 13 years ago. Constant expansion releases pushed players forward, freeing up mobs and camps to the stragglers. That doesn't happen here at all.

[webrunner5]

Yeah but hell Seb had over 170 people in it a few days ago. That is crazy. I think there is too many people on now. Try to get in a group in the daytime in KC, MM, Unrest. Good luck with that. :eek:

On live Velious would have been out a LONG time ago and things would not be as crowded. Look at the price of gear now. Hell you can't save enough plat up to begin to buy good stuff anymore.

[Briscoe]

When you guys start seeing 100+ people in LOIO and DL like you would routinely see back on Live (even after Velious release), then maybe we can start talking about a split. Until then, it's totally unnecessary and it just sounds like a bunch of people wish they were around to get a guise.

[Zuut]

Having come to P99 years later than many of y'all, I would still not want a server split (though I admit it would be very fun to start from scratch along with many others). Shoot, with my casual game time, people have re-rolled twice and passed me up, so I feel like this would still be the case even on a new, fresh server - the only difference would be a lower population and a lesser chance of me being able to find a group after the initial wave of first toon leveling due to decreased populations and fewer alts.

As a casual player, that's just how I feel.

[Itap]

Yeah but hell Seb had over 170 people in it a few days ago. That is crazy. I think there is too many people on now. Try to get in a group in the daytime in KC, MM, Unrest. Good luck with that. :eek:

On live Velious would have been out a LONG time ago and things would not be as crowded. Look at the price of gear now. Hell you can't save enough plat up to begin to buy good stuff anymore.

I think you're confused on how live camps used to work. People are spoiled with camps now. Remember HHK goblins? There were seriously like 4 groups down there. Now 1 group takes the entire basement. Same goes for MM, and pretty much every populated zone

[Swish]

Second, nobody mentioned TMO as a reason.


Actually from the other elevendy threads from people wanting a new server its often a dislike on TMO farming epics to sell on, trying to get a monopoly on the raid scene etc etc.

People, as with live, always migrated to servers because they want a new start without 100s of twinks running around.

You'll get TMO on a new server in some entity, and you'll get twinks running around after a few months - so ultimately, a year or two down the line you'll have 2 similar servers with a lower population on each.

The point about the server population drop over the summer is a good one...imagine having 3 servers with the population of red? It's almost enough to make someone want a DOTA 2 'beta' key...

[Swish]

Red needs to reroll as a team pvp setup. Less griefing I'd think, and I know (when I get a new 'puter) that I'd be down for it :)

[Elements]

New server with all items no drop except vendor trash like gems and tradeskill mats and break MQs. Fixes RMT, makes twinking very difficult, encourages people to move around to all sorts of camps and zones to get the pieces they need while levelling up instead of just powering through the xp highway.

But break RMT, what? Never happen.

[fadetree]

^ would play

[Ele]

New server with all items no drop except vendor trash like gems and tradeskill mats and break MQs. Fixes RMT, makes twinking very difficult, encourages people to move around to all sorts of camps and zones to get the pieces they need while levelling up instead of just powering through the xp highway.

But break RMT, what? Never happen.

Firiona Vie Rule Set?

[Anowin]

I just started on P99 a few weeks ago. For those of you that have been playing for a long time, I understand the desire to re-roll, re-progress, etc. But be very careful what you wish for. We have longed for Classic for such a long time, and it's here, thanks to P99's efforts. Simply because a few zones may be crowded in peak times is not a reason to start a new server that will more than likely halve the population. Talk about deserted. It's human nature to always want more, to start over, to re-live again, but try not to forget what you have here. The fact that I can pick up a group in Blackburrow on a 3 year old server is amazing. And we always had issues 13 years ago finding camps in the higher dungeons. I remember people splitting the "circle room" camp in SolB when months before it wasn't even a camp. Find off times to play, and have fun. No to split.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Casuals who ask for a new start are just being naive.

Obviously a new server will attract hardcore players just like casuals, and while the casual masses are leveling at 1/4 the speed they do here because there are 400 of them below level 10 struggling to find anything at all to kill, all the while being without friendly high-levels to buff and offer handouts and sell mid-level gear at low prices, the hardcore players will have jumped ahead already and will proceed to monopolize the same camps that they already do on blue.

hardcore people will be more than happy to keep two servers hosting a 10+ year old game on lockdown. You underestimate the Power of Neckbeard.

[feanan]

One issue nobody has mentioned is they millions of pp that are on the sever due to bugs, cheater, exploits, etc.

Not to mention all the early folk farmed 100 manastones and all the other expensive shit to resell.

There is a reason so many people can afford to pay 300k for bp's, and hundreds of pp for epics for alts, etc.

Let me tell you, its NOT because they are farming 1k an hour at seafuries

[Tecmos Deception]

One issue nobody has mentioned is they millions of pp that are on the sever due to bugs, cheater, exploits, etc.

Not to mention all the early folk farmed 100 manastones and all the other expensive shit to resell.

There is a reason so many people can afford to pay 300k for bp's, and hundreds of pp for epics for alts, etc.

Let me tell you, its NOT because they are farming 1k an hour at seafuries

Granted.

But the same stuff would happen on a new server.

Seriously. Do you casual players who are clamoring for a server split really think that you'd be free of hardcore players or something? Do you really think that you'd be able to waltz into legacy/cash camps in the 10 hours you can play per week? Do you really think there wouldn't be an entire guild of 50s farming every worthwhile item in the game before you even made level 30? Do you really think you'd have more fun competing with hundreds of other people who are also level 1 just to find a new rats to kill, all the while having no high levels to help you with spell/bag money or buffs or gear that you couldn't possibly farm yourself for 40 levels even though it is only worth using right now?

:confused:

[Droog007]

A bunch of doom and gloom

That would probably happen... but I actually kinda thrive on that sort of struggle. Plus I would at least have a chance at having a pre-nerf guise on a firepot-bound fatty without buying it...

Not into account trading. I think that's the worst part about this server. I don't blame people for taking advantage of it, but I wish there was a way for it to never start.

[Itap]

The only reason I support account trading for platinum is for the fact if you get bored with your 50-something rogue, you can trade it to get maybe something more solo-friendly such as a necro, shaman, ect. You're not just stuck with him/her.

This also brings inherent risks though, such as buying an account that's flagged for SEQ

[Lagaidh]

This is like starting an original Nintendo fan club and having 1,000 people show up to be Player 2 every night.

I've found my all-time favorite p99 forum quote =)

[Taffan]

Normal server pop on live, back during this timeframe, was 1500-2000 on average - more on peak times / weekends / events.

[Lagaidh]

Shoot, with my casual game time, people have re-rolled twice and passed me up, so I feel like this would still be the case even on a new, fresh server

I realize we're talking about the hypothetical server split, but you've hit on what many folks who call for server wipes or resets in the interest of resetting the playing field never take into account: the elite are elite no matter what.

I saw someone comment upthread about being late to Live EQ or p99 and always being "behind". Of all the hardcore players I've known in many titles, it didn't matter if they were behind... they always found a way to get to the top. Some cheat, some grind, some are just plain smarter.

My play style in EQ is like the tortoise from the fairy tale: I will be behind. Reset the server and I may not want to put in another 2 years to get to L53 and outfit a main for me and my wife. That hardcore fella isn't going to blink. He's going to get back to it and probably will get there before you once again!

[kotton05]

population is FINE, just top heavy

[Brimacombe]

Splitting the server would not only be glaringly self-serving, but would also be incongruous with 1999's mission. For a while EQ servers were showing in excess of 3000 players on many servers during peak time.

- Brimacombe

[feanan]

Granted.

But the same stuff would happen on a new server.

Seriously. Do you casual players who are clamoring for a server split really think that you'd be free of hardcore players or something? Do you really think that you'd be able to waltz into legacy/cash camps in the 10 hours you can play per week? Do you really think there wouldn't be an entire guild of 50s farming every worthwhile item in the game before you even made level 30? Do you really think you'd have more fun competing with hundreds of other people who are also level 1 just to find a new rats to kill, all the while having no high levels to help you with spell/bag money or buffs or gear that you couldn't possibly farm yourself for 40 levels even though it is only worth using right now?

:confused:

Yes, i do think it would be more fun. and one would hope that in the years this server has been open, they've fixed and closed most of the early dup/cheating bugs.

And no, I don't think that on a new server casuals would somehow be equal or better than others. You'll always have those people who put in more time to get crap, that's not the point.

Frankly, I'd like to see them kill red, and come out with a modified blue server. One account per IP address. No changing of passwords. Account sale = auto ban. Dup bugs closed. cheaters actually banned.

Dream world though, I know it will never happen.

It's kind of funny to me, you'd think after all the time, sweat, and effort the devs have put in here, they'd want to do some things to actually make it more fun for more people

[skipdog]

When you guys start seeing 100+ people in LOIO and DL like you would routinely see back on Live (even after Velious release), then maybe we can start talking about a split. Until then, it's totally unnecessary and it just sounds like a bunch of people wish they were around to get a guise.

[feanan]

Sounds like all the RMT'ers like to keep their customer base on one server.

Yeah, I wouldn't want a server split after I paid real $$$ for gear/pp/characters either.

So, both buyers and sellers like the status quo.

shocker

[skipdog]

Sounds like all the RMT'ers like to keep their customer base on one server.

Yeah, I wouldn't want a server split after I paid real $$$ for gear/pp/characters either.

So, both buyers and sellers like the status quo.

shocker

If you think RMT has anything to do with 90% of our opinions in this thread, you are completely crazy.

[Brimacombe]

Sounds like all the RMT'ers like to keep their customer base on one server.

Yeah, I wouldn't want a server split after I paid real $$$ for gear/pp/characters either.

So, both buyers and sellers like the status quo.

shocker


Is this sincere or irony? The RMT card comes out fast these days. I would switch first to the "GMs playing favorites" card, then rant about "Uberguilds", THEN go to RMT, then finish with explosive rage to the admins for not giving you your way. Get with the program.

- Brimacombe

[Lagaidh]

Frankly, I'd like to see them kill red, and come out with a modified blue server. One account per IP address. No changing of passwords. Account sale = auto ban. Dup bugs closed.

Now something like this would make me reroll. Just a server where if you see the same player name years apart... you know it's the same person playing as before.

[Grimmly Fireforge]

People are always going to come late to the server, and they will always want a new launch. I don't see how this idea wouldn't just end up being the same situation we have now after a year, with more people clamoring for a third server.

I would only be for this if they wiped Blue completely and started from scratch, preferably with changes that would prevent any account sales/purchases.

[Swish]

No RMTs, no powerlevelling, no boxing, no item link text, no uberguilds, no maps/compass, no FTE rule, no fun.

This is the server we need.

[InfamousTaco]

Just try red. Do it.

Blues like to laugh at us and call our server dead, but we're not the ones sitting around waiting for camps and waiting 6 months to get raid loot.

If you want something on red, you take it. It's an all out battle over there and I think more people would like it if they would just give it a shot. We've had several switch over and just completely smack their head and wonder what they were doing with their lives (100+ people sitting on trak spawn, come on guys...how is that fun?)

Now is a good time to start up, we're reaching almost 200 people at peak times.

[Swish]

I think blue laughs more at the recruitment drive, followed shortly after the attitude that comes with the responses.

Red shot itself in the foot in the first week with griefing in low level zones. As I've said before its a cannibalistic server that will never allow itself to thrive. Had an enchanter on there once, no gear at all...casually XP'ing in Unrest when someone's VERY well geared barb rogue alt appears, kills, and corpse camps. I must be a terribad at pvp with my cracked staff and starter robe right? I'm sure the bragging in global OOC was well worth it.

/wave

[Raavak]

Until then, it's totally unnecessary and it just sounds like a bunch of people wish they were around to get a guise.I think there should be more GM events where the Guise, Manastones, Box of Abu-Kar, and Thex Daggers were awarded where new players get a shot at these.

[InfamousTaco]

Clearly PvP is not for you.

And it's not for everyone, that much is obvious.

PvP is...PvP. You can't complain about the server cannibalizing itself because people are fighting each other.

All I'm saying here is that instead of this hypothetical server split (never going to happen by the way) you DO have other options out there. I think most people just dismiss it out of hand.

The other day I came home from work, killed two dragons and then we had a huge PvP fight against an enemy guild that was attempting to do chardok royals. Finished it off by helping a bunch of low level people in crushbone.

Shits tite and I think a lot of people would like it if they would just try it.

[Grimmly Fireforge]

Just try red. Do it.

Blues like to laugh at us and call our server dead, but we're not the ones sitting around waiting for camps and waiting 6 months to get raid loot.

If you want something on red, you take it. It's an all out battle over there and I think more people would like it if they would just give it a shot. We've had several switch over and just completely smack their head and wonder what they were doing with their lives (100+ people sitting on trak spawn, come on guys...how is that fun?)

Now is a good time to start up, we're reaching almost 200 people at peak times.

Not everyone is some kind of power-gamer who has the time to sit on Trak for 10 hours.

The majority of people on Blue just want to log on in the evening to non-empty zones and have a reasonable expectation of finding a group quickly, and getting some XP in the 2 hours or so they have available. The fact is, you can't do that on Red 1-49, and you know it.

[Swish]

new players

Different to the other strain of "new players" that beg items off people in the EC tunnel and sell on for big profits I hope.

If you encounter those...tell them "no" if they have their anon tag up (if they can "/anon" they're probably not as new as they're letting on), or say "get Level +1/+2 and its yours". The vast majority react like the man below...

http://youtu.be/FwP2vV6Wm1Y?t=47s (clip from "Falling Down")

[Glasken]

This is the server we need.


This is the server we deserve.

[curtischoy]

There needs to be more ppl on this server if anything.

[Sephyre]

A new server is appealing - I would play there - but I think in the long run P1999 won't be able to sustain a population across two blue servers, so it wouldn't be in the best interest of the project.

It would be fun though :)

What would also be great is a forum ban on the incessant whining from the handful of Red1999 players begging people to go play on their wasteland.

[Rettii]

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