Raid Mob window changes?

[Tegellan]

It is obvious by now that a lot of raid mobs went past the end of their window.
Since there was nothing in the patch notes about this, is it possible to hear from a GM as to if the windows have been officially extended and we can expect this to continue from now on?


There has been a TON of people at the VS spawn point for well over 24 hours now. While I personally ended up saying fuck it and went to bed, there are many people who did not.

We are told not to use any means of 3rd party programing to get FTE (and honestly my 1996 keyboard would not be able to use this anyway)


I don't care either way as to why the reason all these mobs have went past the window. I just know there has been a few GMs in the pit to see the crazy sock and would hate to think the windows were extended and we are all getting laughed at.

So if a GM could make a post and say "the server reset and you all missed it" or We have extended the spawn windows in an attempt to stop the poopsocking and unfortunately it has currently made it way worse temporarily. I would really appreciate it so I don't waste any more of my life

[Barkingturtle]

Quick, go outside.

[Ele]

http://i.imgur.com/n2vSHt4.jpg

[Swish]

http://i.imgur.com/yQLLrPU.gif

[Splorf22]

Wait so instead of reducing variance and adding simultaneous repops, they extended the window? Isn't that like the exact opposite of what they said they were going to do?

[oldschooltrader]

It is obvious by now that a lot of raid mobs went past the end of their window.
Since there was nothing in the patch notes about this, is it possible to hear from a GM as to if the windows have been officially extended and we can expect this to continue from now on?


There has been a TON of people at the VS spawn point for well over 24 hours now. While I personally ended up saying fuck it and went to bed, there are many people who did not.

We are told not to use any means of 3rd party programing to get FTE (and honestly my 1996 keyboard would not be able to use this anyway)


I don't care either way as to why the reason all these mobs have went past the window. I just know there has been a few GMs in the pit to see the crazy sock and would hate to think the windows were extended and we are all getting laughed at.

So if a GM could make a post and say "the server reset and you all missed it" or We have extended the spawn windows in an attempt to stop the poopsocking and unfortunately it has currently made it way worse temporarily. I would really appreciate it so I don't waste any more of my life

the GMs owe the players no explanations if the timers were ninja changed, that is part of EQ, adapting to the changing world. It the the choice of the players if they want to sit there mindlessly for hours awaiting a certain spawn. Personally if they did get ninja changed I applaud this as it should bring to light the "what exactly are we even doing" realization that many players will experience after a good ol 12-20 hour sock of something that should have already popped.

Camping the spawn points and praying for a FTE tag no where near resembles a classic EQ experience which is very sad that things have gotten to this point on a server that was built for 'nostalgia' and the good ol days. I dont have the answer as per how people should get their pixels but it certainly shouldnt be like this :(

[Alarti0001]

Quick, go outside.

responded within 5 mins of this post......... take own advice

[Clark]

responded within 5 mins of this post......... take own advice

lol gotta agree on that

[arsenalpow]

Maybe the spawn just bugged out? I'm pretty sure Ragefire was bugged but the most recent Naggy fixed him. Sky was also bugged after the patch and Rogean had to reset the zone to fix it.

[Autotune]

http://i56.tinypic.com/10oh740.jpg

[falkun]

Stealin: Pot = Kettle = Black. You're waist-deep in the shitpile, you'd be in over your head if you were a gnome. I'm glad we've been doing Royals instead of whipping out our Christmas stockings.

Ele's post = /thread.

[Lorraine]

Stealin what for did you crop names in that pic? Also, why the heck petition anyway, just slamdunkdoit :cool:

[Autotune]

Stealin: Pot = Kettle = Black. You're waist-deep in the shitpile, you'd be in over your head if you were a gnome. I'm glad we've been doing Royals instead of whipping out our Christmas stockings.

Ele's post = /thread.

Eh? I was there to talk and laugh, zero ducks about VS. Stop being derpish.

[Itap]

/wave Taken brothers and sisters

[Joroz]

http://i56.tinypic.com/10oh740.jpg

wtf... nice blacking out of additional info your cheater program is adding to name captions.

[Nirgon]

I don't see this solving anything...

And that Autotune image might be some of the best trolling ever imagined


Edit: Examined and conclusion made (ain't sayin!)

[Hugmukk]

There has been talk about changing the variance and spawn times of mobs periodically to keep people guessing. If that's the case you won't get an answer.

[Silo69]

lol at blacking out shit in a 15 yr old mmorpg

you sir are the nerd

i hope they just dont spawn VS and you die in your own feces

[Boilon]

seeing this many people sit on a spawn somehow brings a smile to my face knowing that I'm doing something better with my life.

[TotallyLegit]

Hmmmmmmmmmmm I wonder if doing something like that in game and deliberately NOT announcing it in patch notes would increase forum traffic?

http://careerservices.lafayette.edu/files/2013/02/bag_of_money.png

[Ravager]

wtf... nice blacking out of additional info your cheater program is adding to name captions.

It's okay. Stealin is an alt.

[Handull]

Pretty sure the spawn timers just got botched when the server crashed not long after the last patch. Bugs happen, and if that crash set all the spawn timers then all the windows were shifted from what everyone thought they should be, but now that everything has spawned once it should be back to normal. That's my best guess. Continue the tin foil had nonsense tho, its funny.

[Silo69]

If only we had something like FTE Shout and simulated patch days and reduction of Variance, as has been promised numerous times in the last 6 months.

bring back target rings
pet window buff icons
bard song windows
and upgrade items that shouldnt be nerfed earlier than sov

/not classic

[Nocte]

http://i.imgur.com/Sdzk2iM.jpg

Here's an unobstructed view. I don't usually come to these types of "raids," I'll admit it was pretty sad to see the game reduced to this. There's not even a competition at this point. Each guild seems to be there just to get the mob so they can make a post about it here later.

[Ravager]

http://i.imgur.com/Sdzk2iM.jpg

Here's an unobstructed view. I don't usually come to these types of "raids," I'll admit it was pretty sad to see the game reduced to this. There's not even a competition at this point. Each guild seems to be there just to get the mob so they can make a post about it here later.

My crumby laptop can't even handle being in that room. I know for a fact the computer I had in 99/00 would not have been able to either and the computer I had then was top of the line. Everyone in that room is not classic.

[Splorf22]

My crumby laptop can't even handle being in that room. I know for a fact the computer I had in 99/00 would not have been able to either and the computer I had then was top of the line. Everyone in that room is not classic.

New raid rules: any time more than 24 players are aggro on a dragon, the rest are randomly LDed. This would be pretty freaking classic :D

[Nirgon]

The unobstructed view is what happens when Kunark has been out for 2-3 years and people could exploit their brains out in classic/kunark to get the war machine going. Aw, you pooped in your bed (convenience) and you aren't enjoying what you've made for yourselves (not classic)?

As far as all of you dumbs... notice how he didn't blank out quite a few players (Wizbizzle or w/e for example)? I thought in the Bouncerr pic it showed something next to everyone? Way to get wtftrolled.

Macro'ers need to be banned. Who else what he's used it for. The point is when a player gets caught, zero tolerance.

[pharmakos]

New raid rules: any time more than 24 players are aggro on a dragon, the rest are randomly LDed. This would be pretty freaking classic :D

lmfao

[Karbuk]

I think its pretty cool with the extended windows...gives other guilds a chance to maybe stumble across and get lucky to get a raidmob instead of being perma camped by top guilds. Which is what I think the GMs were trying to do. Eliminate 50 people from sitting in one spot and knowing exactly when a pop is coming. Screw that im glad this happened :) good work lol

[Karbuk]

http://i.imgur.com/Sdzk2iM.jpg

Here's an unobstructed view. I don't usually come to these types of "raids," I'll admit it was pretty sad to see the game reduced to this. There's not even a competition at this point. Each guild seems to be there just to get the mob so they can make a post about it here later.

I must say this is a pretty pathetic thing to see....Sad and really ruins the game. As good as early/mid game EQ is they sure did fail hard setting up end game raiding. Thats the only thing id say WOW has over EQ is an amazing end game raiding. POP was good for the instances. EQ and WoW Devs shoulda came together :P

[Ele]

I must say this is a pretty pathetic thing to see....Sad and really ruins the game. As good as early/mid game EQ is they sure did fail hard setting up end game raiding. Thats the only thing id say WOW has over EQ is an amazing end game raiding. POP was good for the instances. EQ and WoW Devs shoulda came together :P

Strangely enough this hasn't happened since the last patch.


Even worse on Fippy Darkpaw (at least at the server opening)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HAEq1F0kX8

[roks1]

I think its pretty cool with the extended windows...gives other guilds a chance to maybe stumble across and get lucky to get a raidmob instead of being perma camped by top guilds. Which is what I think the GMs were trying to do. Eliminate 50 people from sitting in one spot and knowing exactly when a pop is coming. Screw that im glad this happened :) good work lol

lol

[roks1]

http://i.imgur.com/Sdzk2iM.jpg

[pharmakos]

this thread never got a GM response. did the variance window change, or were people just paranoid?

[maverixdamighty]

this thread never got a GM response. did the variance window change, or were people just paranoid?

rogean posted his own thread about it...

[Funkutron5000]

They added a chance to extend the window if a mob gets into the last 15%. It's up in the patch notes forum.

[pharmakos]

rogean posted his own thread about it...

doh lol i'll search for it

[Rhambuk]

lol the ol Fippy Darkpaw vs raid. So classic

[Infectious]

Gm needs to pop in there and enable pvp for 5-10 mins. That many people in such a small area would be funny.

[Kieu]

I must say this is a pretty pathetic thing to see....Sad and really ruins the game. As good as early/mid game EQ is they sure did fail hard setting up end game raiding. Thats the only thing id say WOW has over EQ is an amazing end game raiding. POP was good for the instances. EQ and WoW Devs shoulda came together :P

The first instanced zones were from LDoN. The worst expac this game has ever seen, and ironically it started a trend. I personally hate instances, they ruin half the competition. The ones that complain are typically the ones that got everything nerfed in WoW anyways. You know why? because they weren't good enough to do it or couldn't handle farming resists, or pots back when Rag was an actual challenge.

Whiners gonna whine, endless cycle. (Not saying you deliberately either, don't take it as if I'm pointing fingers at you).

[HeallunRumblebelly]

The first instanced zones were from LDoN. The worst expac this game has ever seen, and ironically it started a trend. I personally hate instances, they ruin half the competition. The ones that complain are typically the ones that got everything nerfed in WoW anyways. You know why? because they weren't good enough to do it or couldn't handle farming resists, or pots back when Rag was an actual challenge.

Whiners gonna whine, endless cycle. (Not saying you deliberately either, don't take it as if I'm pointing fingers at you).

Except plane of time, which of course happened two (though you could argue for one--not many potime guilds pre loy) which was instanced as a motherfucker. 100 man PoEB raids turned into 54? man PoTimea PoTimeb raids? awesome.

[Bidoof]

Originally PoTime wasn't instanced. There were rotations for it (at least on my server), and the raid part of it wasn't instanced until after LDoN.

[Matasata]

You are telling me people actually sit at their computers spamming some kind of key for hours on end hoping to get the first hit on a mob? How does that keep other people from doing more damage and just kill stealing it or is that what happens.

I had no idea people actually did this. :confused: