Europa, A-Team, Azure Guard, and Indignation have all managed to find a spot in the sky rotation.

Pretty much every other guild that's not in Class C has found their way into a Class R rotation.

Quit making excuses for them, Derubael. They've been approached time and time again and have always given the same answer: not interested. People are shunning them because surprise! -- they're acting like dicks. The issue here is squarely with Bob.

Splorf, do you mean you spoke to them after they made their sky day post saying they wouldn't join in on the rotation, which was made after they were told 'no, you can't join the sky rotation'?

I said they weren't invited to the negotiations. I knew that you invited them to join the tier 2 rotation. They don't want to do that - they want to race for mobs, just not against TMO/FE/IB, just like BDA/Taken/AG didn't want to do. Why is that ludicrous?

Derubael, logic doesn't work with these people. You're just wasting your time here, bud.

Can we switch the letters around? C- casual guild, R- raid guild makes more sense imo. Class C just comes off as an insult to me.

Before and after

One of their very first raids they came into Fear while we were there and I explained to them we don't go to planes when other guilds were there and that it's just a etiquette thing. The person I was speaking to said they tried to talk to leadership and that leadership wanted to go anyway.

So to be fair, they didn't exactly start off on the right foot either

That person later became an officer but then disappeared on Christmas :(

This. Lets make it happen.

Derubael, if their intial post was 'we won't join the rotation', how could they possibly have been denied?

Your assertion that Lord Bob has been continually shit on is ludicrous.

Pretty sure TMO and FE/IB have been competing for Hoshkar and PD. But, what would I know, I only raid in VP with those guilds. I should probably rely on hearsay for my information.

Cucumbers, what did you do to that man?! :eek:

Haha I don't even know, my logs go until Dec 24th I was tanked on shitty cheap whiskey chatting with the person and that was the last I ever saw of them

still on my friends list today!

RIP