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ryachart 08-09-2015 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Danth (Post 2003948)
Over the years I've decided that while a lot of us would play on this type of server....none of us would make it. We like Everquest--but we don't like it enough to spend thousands of hours working on code and researching database entries and whatnot in order to make a high-fidelity server. The guys who'll do that are the folks who love old-time EQ, warts and all, so that's what they'll make.

I can live with that.

Danth

Yeah. And it's fun reading these posts because the reality of the situation is everybody has a threshold and everybody has a different opinion of which warts are fine and which aren't.

The folks here aren't super transparent about their goals, and I don't really buy the copy-pasted Nilbog hyperbole that he doesn't care about how many people play on this server. There's a point at which this project is sufficiently ignored and dejected that it will begin to impact the motivation of the devs. I don't think it's anywhere near that point, but it exists.

With that in mind, I have hopes that the success of this project will eventually steer it to a place where those in charge ask themselves if it might be worth exploring a similar project that tries to expose more people to the classic experience that they loved so much.

If they do that, they might need to break down a lot of the high friction barriers that prevent people from getting at the core of what makes this place something to spend time on. I think they have a pretty good shot at making a really fantastic experience that's a step forward from the classic but protects what was so good about it.

Gustoo 08-09-2015 11:15 PM

Duck thing is only an issue Pscottdai because blue can duck while red can't...for no reason.

winter888 08-09-2015 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Haynar (Post 2003958)
Mouse wheel scrolling is not classic ....

And I know how to disable it. It was chosen not to be implemented.

/applaud.

Thanks for the great decision.

Bboboo 08-09-2015 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Daldaen (Post 2003965)
Don't let the non-classic haters get you down, the removal of this would be fantastic. Get to see who is really good at EQ and who has to use these non-classic crutches to beat 14 year old content.

If only you could pull your head out of your ass long enough to hear how dumb that sounds.

nilbog 08-10-2015 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ryachart (Post 2004041)
I don't really buy the copy-pasted Nilbog hyperbole that he doesn't care about how many people play on this server. There's a point at which this project is sufficiently ignored and dejected that it will begin to impact the motivation of the devs. I don't think it's anywhere near that point, but it exists.

Believe it or not, more people playing here doesn't benefit me. If the amount of legitimate bug reports was influenced by the total amount of players, then yes, I'd want there to be as many as possible. However, I learned a long time ago that the majority of players don't report bugs. The ones that do, consistently make reports and are very helpful. (<3 u all)

If you believe players motivate unpaid developers.. that's simply not true in my case. If this was a business that was dependent on total subscriptions, I'd be persuaded by financial managers to please as many people as possible. Thankfully, that is not the case, and idgaf.

Haynar 08-10-2015 12:21 AM

Ditto.

blondeattk 08-10-2015 12:26 AM

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your server, change it how you want!
BULLSHIT!

doesnt give you carteblanche to ass rape the people who are playing this crappy server.

respect is a 2 way thing, the developers dont respect the players and so they
players can never respect them either.

The sensible thing would be to run 2 servers, one for the pureists (clueless classic naxis) and one for the folk who just enjoy playing an older version of eq. That way the classic zombies can enjoy their own putred company, and the rest can have a good time.

ryachart 08-10-2015 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by nilbog (Post 2004085)
Believe it or not, more people playing here doesn't benefit me. If the amount of legitimate bug reports was influenced by the total amount of players, then yes, I'd want there to be as many as possible. However, I learned a long time ago that the majority of players don't report bugs. The ones that do, consistently make reports and are very helpful. (<3 u all)

If you believe players motivate unpaid developers.. that's simply not true in my case. If this was a business that was dependent on total subscriptions, I'd be persuaded by financial managers to please as many people as possible. Thankfully, that is not the case, and idgaf.

I appreciate what you do, and you've built a great product here. I don't want you to think that the following comments are meant in disrespect.

There is just too damn much consideration shown for the ungrateful and frankly disrespectful player base in this community for me to believe that validation of the audience isn't satisfying someone's goals for this product.

The server up times are fantastic, community concerns are handled, the release events, the fact that any petitions at all get answered. What makes all of that happen if not the desire for an audience for this product?

P.S. - FWIW, I have a monthly donation subscription setup because I would pay for a product like this.

Grimjaw 08-10-2015 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by rollin5k (Post 2003094)
Love this change. Good job guys


milsorgen 08-10-2015 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by blondeattk (Post 2004097)
BULLSHIT!

doesnt give you carteblanche to ass rape the people who are playing this crappy server.

respect is a 2 way thing, the developers dont respect the players and so they
players can never respect them either.

The sensible thing would be to run 2 servers, one for the pureists (clueless classic naxis) and one for the folk who just enjoy playing an older version of eq. That way the classic zombies can enjoy their own putred company, and the rest can have a good time.

5stars


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