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Sweetbaby Jesus 04-03-2014 12:05 PM

They absolutely exist. More cross over the southern border of the US everyday.

Sweetbaby Jesus 04-03-2014 12:06 PM

Also Lron is a tranny. That is all.

moklianne 04-03-2014 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bardalicious (Post 1397123)
How is it you postulate that an alien civilization has managed to travel the vast distances required to reach us? If they were capable of such technology, the next question would be: why come here? Resources? Doubtful, there would certainly be a million other planets between us and them that they could take advantage of.

As for UFO sightings, I'm more than skeptical. We seem perpetually fascinated with over-fantasizing about anything that breaks the normality of our current existence, which includes religion, aliens, and end-of-world scenarios. It's easier to fantasize about such things than to cope with the reality that we are in fact, for our own sake is concerned, all alone here.

I personally don't believe that the speed of light is the ultimate speed limit. There are theories that claim that the vacuum of space is not empty and that dark energy is inhibiting the movement of light/matter through it. Ideas like warp drives can exist using our current laws of physics, the power is just restrictive at this point in time. Why is it so difficult to believe that our science cannot currently explain all facets of the universe yet?

Why do we search for life in the universe? Even microbial? Why is it so difficult to believe that other species can't have a thirst for all knowledge or a curiosity like we have? Or perhaps we are a delicacy, no different than some of the expensive tasty things that we enjoy. You won't know until you meet them and ask them.

UFO's do exist. Much of which occurs naturally (lights in the skies, etc). What you are referring to is alien craft. There is no way to verify whether a UFO is an alien craft unless it lands and aliens pop out and greet you. Its good to be skeptical, its another thing to be closed minded.

Azure 04-03-2014 12:21 PM

Saw an article that compared aliens and their different varieties to different groups interacting with whales...

Some hunt, some observe from a distance, some catch and tag, some train, some swim with them for only a few minutes, some feed, some try to teach tricks etc...

Appearently several groups of aliens are supposed to be visiting us and they all do this whale watch/eat/thing to us. Most don't want to have anything to do with us. There's some that think they can turn whales into something more than whales... like the navy training dolphins.

TBH wouldn't be surprised if this was true. The aliens u want to be with are the ones that sit and listen but don't tell you how to live/what to do.

moklianne 04-03-2014 12:41 PM

I've always felt that if they do exist, there's nothing stopping aliens from acting like us on personal levels. I'm sure there are those that see us as vermin or dinner (if we are tasty), just like I am sure there are those that are trying to save us, just like how we try to save, reintroduce, study, etc wildlife on this planet. There can be many groups of aliens with these types of opposing goals or stance on the matter of humans, even within the same species of alien.

BigHurb 04-03-2014 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweetbaby Jesus (Post 1397229)
Also Lron is a tranny. That is all.

i feel accomplished knowing this is the sentiment here

Rellapse40 04-03-2014 01:24 PM

u can thank me

Bardalicious 04-03-2014 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by moklianne (Post 1397249)
I personally don't believe that the speed of light is the ultimate speed limit. There are theories that claim that the vacuum of space is not empty and that dark energy is inhibiting the movement of light/matter through it. Ideas like warp drives can exist using our current laws of physics, the power is just restrictive at this point in time. Why is it so difficult to believe that our science cannot currently explain all facets of the universe yet?

Why do we search for life in the universe? Even microbial? Why is it so difficult to believe that other species can't have a thirst for all knowledge or a curiosity like we have? Or perhaps we are a delicacy, no different than some of the expensive tasty things that we enjoy. You won't know until you meet them and ask them.

UFO's do exist. Much of which occurs naturally (lights in the skies, etc). What you are referring to is alien craft. There is no way to verify whether a UFO is an alien craft unless it lands and aliens pop out and greet you. Its good to be skeptical, its another thing to be closed minded.

I never made the statement that science currently explains all facets of the universe. If anything, I've stated the opposite. Being skeptical through logical thought is not the same as being close-minded. I concur that deep-space travel is entirely within the realm of possibility.

However, I disagree that if an advanced species were capable of such a thing, they'd be using it to travel to Earth for any reasons that seem logical. And further, to do so without formally revealing themselves is a rather whimsical notion.

Further, we have groups tasked with monitoring for extraterrestrial communication, such as SETI. We're capable of mapping dark energy via cosmic microwave background radiation levels, capable of seeing beyond the scope of our own galaxy, but yet incapable of providing any definitive proof that we're being visited by life from another planet?

Sorry, I just don't buy it.

Toodles 04-03-2014 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by phacemeltar (Post 1395296)
it seems completely unfeasible to me that in the infinity(?) that is outer space, there are no lifeforms that do not call earth home. that being said, whether or not humans would consider them to be "lifeforms" is debatable, as well as whether we would perceive their form of being as "life"

This is an example of desperation false logic. The idea that they must exist, without any probability model, means it's born out of desire rather than a scientific proof or theory.

In short, "it seems completely unfeasible to me" is not evidence.

What we do know, is that Earth is a singular unique planet with no others like it in all the documented star systems. That's pretty compelling data to suggest that we are alone.

More important, if aliens do exist, how come they keep crashing into the planet? Why can't they just land?

Ahldagor 04-03-2014 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by KagaKawaiitob (Post 1396670)
I'll take that as a concession. :)

of course you would because the reality of the situation is still the reality

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Originally Posted by KagaKawaiitob (Post 1396670)
With a species that's able to traverse the galaxy around it'd be amusing to see people try.

it'd take an incredible amount of energy in order to move a galaxy around. i'm not so sure a species could create such a device due to the amount of resources that would be needed


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