Patton was wrong.

In our quest to defy and defeat the USSR, we really honed (or effectively faked, if you're pessimistic) our free and liberal values.

Invading Russia would've set off a truly power hungry hegemony for at least half a century.

Think NSA spy programs, but starting in the 1950s, on a global scale.

Power must be checked. Even ours.

Speedrunning the quake games doesn't usually require much killing.

War is Hell, and Patton was right. Mysterious vehicle accident for his death...

This thread is funny because loramin is clearly smarter than SC, and yet gets everything wrong anyway. Some things are so stupid they can only believed by someone who went to college (and watches huge quantities of CNN).

Also I have to call out Ahlgador for low posting quality. You need to have more words in your repertoire than 'weak'. My personal favorite word is 'defenestration'. It's hard to work into a message board flame but I have faith in you.

Russia would’ve gotten rolled prior to them stealing the bomb with (((help)))

Thanks for your "support", bud.

I'm not saying they wouldn't have.

That's the issue.

Russia was our counterbalance after the war.

If we took out Russia, we probably would have went full on fash mode.

And I'm the last person to claim the US is or ever was fascist, but absolute power corrupts absolutely.

That would’ve be an extremely competent fascist dictatorship. We’re headed that way now except with Kentucky and other “pain management” addicts running things

What exactly do you support?

You seem to support Authoritarian Traditionalism, but you act like a social liberal at times.

Are you just a dedicated troll?

*leans in close*

Just who exactly is Patriam, hmm?

Uh, no. The Soviets pretty much handled the Third Reich by themselves. The incompetent Allies couldn't even make it across the Rhine before the Soviets took care of Berlin. They had thousands more tanks of higher quality than ours, millions more soldiers, and a hell of a lot more will to fight.

During the early days of the A-bomb we could manufacture maybe 1 bomb a month? Not enough to bring the highly decentralized Soviet Union to its knees. Their industry and leadership were spread out over thousands of miles, and it only took a few years for the Soviets to develop the bomb themselves.

US would have gotten its shit kicked in.