Originally Posted by Crab (Post 3165770)

Worked just fine for me and hundreds of other players.

Maybe you shouldn't have fallen asleep, or had just followed the rules of the list. Nevertheless you should be near the top of the list by now.

Originally Posted by Sabin76 (Post 3165783)

I don't see how this list is keeping an item from the "common player". If you're talking about someone who only has a few hours a day to play, then I'd argue this list gives a much better chance (read: non-zero) of getting it than not.

What if this "common player" can only play during peak hours? How is a "common player" supposed to get this camp without a list that this list doesn't also allow?

Put yourself on, wait until near your turn, gate/boat to island, or lose your place. If you lose your place just get put on again. If you get lucky and you happen become #1 while you are on, great! You just got a shot at an item you would 100% have to MQ otherwise.

The ONLY thing people should complain about this system is that you can actually go out and play other aspects of the game while waiting your turn, rather than staring at "A Pirate" every 6 minutes for however long it takes for your turn to come up.

Originally Posted by beh

Again I'd like to reiterate that the problem that I see is not "needing to be in the zone to remain on the list" .. go ahead and ask to join the list from mistmoore for all I care. The problem is being able to check in on what's happening in the Ocean of Tears ... without even being logged on to EQ - without even being at your PC, actually.

If jboots are a priority to you, and it's not just about cycling yourself through a list that you only have to pay attention to once a week in order to price-gouge people on MQ's, then log your ass on and check in to see if your turn is up soon. If you're #10 but your EQ time for the day is up because your wife says it's time to stop ignoring her, then that's just too bad! You don't get to check your phone while watching Grey's Anatomy and plot out exactly when to log back on in the middle of the night and snipe your AC. Sorry. What this results in is someone who actually wants jboots being told that there are 125 people ahead of them at 2:00am on a Tuesday. RIDICULOUS.

Originally Posted by Crab (Post 3165770)

Worked just fine for me and a couple dozen other players that watch this list from our phones all day so we know when to vulture in, over and over again.

Originally Posted by Crab

Maybe you shouldn't have fallen asleep, or had just followed the rules of the list.

Originally Posted by beh (Post 3165717)

Every other camp in the game works without a google spreadsheet that you can access from outside the game for the purpose of camping it... but not really camping it. You know, playing EQ, but not really playing EQ.

That's where the problem lies. Other camp lists naturally peter themselves out toward the end of the night, with the occasional dedicated poopsocker who hangs out for over 24 hours until he falls asleep.

Scenarios: If I log on to play at a lower traffic time of day, I should be able to have a crack at - or a short list for - a normally contested camp... but I might not be able to find a group for XP, and my guildchat will be pretty quiet. Conversely, if I log on during a high-traffic time of day, I'll be able to get that xp group, or maybe do something with my guild... and thank goodness for that, because there's probably 10+ people waiting for that rare spawn camp. No problem!

The way it stands now, even if it's 6:00am, I can't log on and expect to beat the masses to the rare camp because I have to contend with people who can estimate when the best window of time to show up and usually sit their toons AFK at the camp (a bogus way to retain your place in line) because their name is approaching the top of some list that exists NOWHERE within the actual game itself. You've all turned camping the AC in OOT in to a fucking batphone scenario. Don't we have enough of that in p99?

Originally Posted by beh (Post 3165821)

Sounds like you have stockholm syndrome

Originally Posted by beh (Post 3165830)

The current method available is invalid, so my alternative method is this campaign to render it inoperative.