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SearyxTZ 11-03-2011 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ledzepp02 (Post 453254)
So when you say there will be valuable takeaways from this study, you're right. Knowledge is power, and the people demand power returned to them. If this study causes more people to wake up and realize our soon demise with the support of the status quo, and if they make their voices heard in rejection of the status quo based off the knowledge of this study, then it has proven useful.


No, it requires more than that. The idiots who read 2 paragraphs into an article and decide that "THE RICH PIGS ARE HOLDING US DOWN" are making their voices heard, sure, but they're not saying anything productive.

Real change requires a well thought-out solution in addition to protesting or calling for change.

Just "making your voice heard" by itself when you haven't thought beyond "this [thing] sucks, plz fix" amounts to whining, and it's unfortunately a pretty popular trend. I prefer discussions with people who have real, actionable ideas on how to enact change. It's a lot better than complaining and leaving the driver's keys with the people who landed us in this economic mess to begin with.

dcapotos 11-03-2011 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SearyxTZ (Post 453405)
No, it requires more than that. The idiots who read 2 paragraphs into an article and decide that "THE RICH PIGS ARE HOLDING US DOWN" are making their voices heard, sure, but they're not saying anything productive.

Real change requires a well thought-out solution in addition to protesting or calling for change.

Just "making your voice heard" by itself when you haven't thought beyond "this [thing] sucks, plz fix" amounts to whining, and it's unfortunately a pretty popular trend. I prefer discussions with people who have real, actionable ideas on how to enact change. It's a lot better than complaining and leaving the driver's keys with the people who landed us in this economic mess to begin with.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZbNT62aprM

hopefully they will listen to what he said.

Harrison 11-03-2011 05:00 PM

People give all of their money to a bank, and are pissed a bank has all their money?

That's about all the idiocy I can handle from this lmao

Tommy_Wiseau 11-03-2011 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Harrison (Post 453422)
People give all of their money to a bank, and are pissed a bank has all their money?

That's about all the idiocy I can handle from this lmao

chomsky debunked

publish this genius

Pico 11-03-2011 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Harrison (Post 453422)
People give all of their money to a bank, and are pissed a bank has all their money?

That's about all the idiocy I can handle from this lmao

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Naez 4.20 11-03-2011 10:25 PM

I was surprised Goldman was so low, considering every treasury secretary for the past like 50 years has come from there

Hoggen 11-04-2011 01:48 AM

So, someone that makes 100 k a year looks at someone that makes 1 mill a year and says that person makes too much and forces him to make 100 k. Then someone that makes 50 k a year looks at them both and says they make too much, so they are forced to make 50 k. Then people making 25 k look at the 50 k'ers and say they are making too much, and so on and so on.

Socialists believe in a zero-sum game in which they are the losers and they seek to forcibly extract the belongings of others to make their own lives better. If you ever lived in Cold War era Russia or it's satellites, you'd know everyone was pretty miserable except for people that got their rocks off snitching on their neighbor for growing turnips illegally.

I'd rather live in a "system" where people are allowed to keep what they work for than one where an entity, yet to be determined, decides what belongings and resources are allowed to each person under its control. The tyranny of the meek is a hell of a lot uglier than a tainted meritocracy.

Nuk3Afr1ca 11-04-2011 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Tommy_Wiseau (Post 453225)
There's a reason usury was outlawed in the past, and will be again in the future. That list is a case in point.

There are two reasons all the wealth accumulated in the hands of a few people. Usury lending from local banks to citizens is not one of them.

1. The Federal Reserve - a central, private bank issuing money to the government at interest. Technically you could consider this "usury" as it's a private bank lending money to the government, but it's more of a flat out scam since the government can issue it's own debt free currency.

2. Leveraging - if people are allowed to leverage money, it creates a situation where someone can make exponential profits but not exponential loses since anything below 0 is mostly redundant, especially if the entity is a corporation and any penalties towards it don't apply to any actual human being.


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