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t0lkien 08-16-2013 08:33 AM

If damage is the only indication of FTE, then a Bard/Enchanter only ever has "FTE" aggro on their pet when kiting and not the mob/s the pet is damaging. The other mobs are aggroed and damaged, but the player isn't credited with the damage by the aggro system. If you want to test this, sit down next to the mob/s when the pet has broken charm.... the non-pets will aggro you and not the Bard. The same holds true for all pet classes until they actually nuke the mob directly.

Also, what about root/snare? Do these not comprise aggro?

For me it's simple, if a mob is running at all, it's aggroed and so someone else has FTE and I leave it alone. If it's beating on either the player or their pet, it's aggroed. If it's rooted, it's aggroed. Heck, if there is a player in view running toward it, I go elsewhere. It takes a strange sort of entitlement to think otherwise IMO.

Tiggles 08-16-2013 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by t0lkien (Post 1076199)
If damage is the only indication of FTE, then a Bard/Enchanter only ever has "FTE" aggro on their pet when kiting and not the mob/s the pet is damaging. The other mobs are aggroed and damaged, but the player isn't credited with the damage by the aggro system. If you want to test this, sit down next to the mob/s when the pet has broken charm.... the non-pets will aggro you and not the Bard. The same holds true for all pet classes until they actually nuke the mob directly.

Also, what about root/snare? Do these not comprise aggro?

For me it's simple, if a mob is running at all, it's aggroed and so someone else has FTE and I leave it alone. If it's beating on either the player or their pet, it's aggroed. Heck, if there is a player in view running toward it, I go elsewhere. It takes a strange sort of entitlement to think otherwise IMO.

Problem is assholes will do this and GMs usually won't respond, sometimes you have to inact island justice

radditsu 08-16-2013 08:42 AM

I like to root rot 7-8 seafury's at a time.

t0lkien 08-16-2013 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Tiggles (Post 1076202)
Problem is assholes will do this and GMs usually won't respond, sometimes you have to inact island justice

Survivor!

t0lkien 08-16-2013 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by radditsu (Post 1076204)
I like to root rot 7-8 seafury's at a time.

... and apparently you're not the only one. Thank God for track + Selos I say.

Tiggles 08-16-2013 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by radditsu (Post 1076204)
I like to root rot 7-8 seafury's at a time.

Fuck you!

Sirken confirmed that if you do more then 4 at once I can rob you of the rest

Thulack 08-16-2013 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Tiggles (Post 1076207)
Fuck you!

Sirken confirmed that if you do more then 4 at once I can rob you of the rest

And watchout cause if you do have more then 4 Tiggles WILL take mobs off you.

Tiggles 08-16-2013 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Thulack (Post 1076213)
And watchout cause if you do have more then 4 Tiggles WILL take mobs off you.

100% confirmed

Gadwen 08-16-2013 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by gotrocks (Post 1076132)
Fairly sure 'fte' only applies to raid mobs. Also fairly sure that for all other types of mobs, its sort of a 'common sense' applies kind of thing. The mob was clearly yours. This guy was simply being a dick. Not much else to it.

I really think a lot of you would like red. It's not the shitfest its made out to be on the forums. I'm a bluebie and have been playing there lately and having lots of fun - plus, this kind of bogus bullshit doesn't happen over there. Most people are actually pretty cool and willing to help each other.

Not trying to pitch red btw, just thought i'd point that out because its relevant.

FTE applies to everything, if you are sitting on a spawn for 4 hours and someone comes by just as it pops and snags it before you do it isn't considered a KS...sad but it has been proven to be true here.

quido 08-16-2013 09:44 AM

if tiggles took even one off of me because I had more than 4, I'd make sure the rest got on him


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