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Savok 10-30-2013 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Kender (Post 1165303)
nah lucy was created in 2002 so all items can only have at the earliest a 2002 first entry regardless


Salient 10-30-2013 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by pharmakos (Post 1165383)
^^ the devs have said that this server will never get Luclin, nor any expansions past that

Really? I personally liked all the expansions through POP. But I would especially look forward to Velious & Luclin. However the charm of this server, for the time being, is in traversing Norrath and conquering the old world zones with the limitations of the Classic era; something I never was able to truly appreciate before.

Aerar 10-30-2013 01:36 PM

Luclin ruins all. From the insane XP of PC to the Bazaar destroying EC tunnel to stupid looking models and horses.

Vohl 10-30-2013 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Aerar (Post 1165891)
Luclin ruins all. From the insane XP of PC to the Bazaar destroying EC tunnel to stupid looking models and horses.

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Ele 10-30-2013 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nilbog (Post 249515)
I think the majority* of players here believe classic-Velious had the right idea.

Luclin onward.. I just can't get onboard with. I played the expansions up to like omens of war. It was all right, but mostly just a big waste of my time.

I'd rather have a completely custom game after Velious than rebuild that fail. Cats on the moon not happening on my watch.


pharmakos 10-30-2013 02:41 PM

luclin/PoP minus PoK (and maybe the nexus), the bazaar, and the stupid models would be nice imo

oh and horses were sorta dumb i guess, but not horrible

AAs were awesome, as were caster focus effects

Atmas 10-30-2013 03:20 PM

To answer the OP:

Focus effects were added later in the game, at a point after Velious which is were this server is currently scheduled to stop adding content. In other words if things go as planned items will never have focus effects here. The reason you see effects on old items when looking at some sources is because on live they were added retroactively when focus was added to the game.

As far a Luclin goes. I enjoyed it, sure it had its downsides with VT being mind numbingly boring, but things like AAs that really gave casters some real end game toon development were awesome. Ssra and a lot of other zones were fun too. Mounts and some interesting clickies on gear added more dimensions to the game. Velious for example is terribly itemized for casters but still a good expansion.

IMO too many people get way to bent out of shape about cats on the moon or whatever. I know a lot of people are on this server because they liked the game up until only Velious, but a lot are here because they appreciate the level of effort put into authenticity and it is the best option. I enjoyed the game through PoP and would love to see the server go that far, but its not my call.

Spitty 10-30-2013 04:47 PM

Cats on the moon, talking lizards in the desert - whatever. Lore/canon content isn't terribly concerning.

Luclin, however, was a fail of an expansion overall and I would be dismayed to see it once again stifling the greatness that was/will be Velious.

uygi 10-30-2013 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitty (Post 1166163)
Cats on the moon, talking lizards in the desert - whatever. Lore/canon content isn't terribly concerning.

Luclin, however, was a fail of an expansion overall and I would be dismayed to see it once again stifling the greatness that was/will be Velious.

Are you sure you'll still feel the same way after 4 years of farming Velious?

IMO the best solution would be to take the original P99 server and add either fully custom content or release Luclin (probably in chunks) in modified form to maintain the spirit of classic EQ. Different devs have suggested that there might be new custom content after the P99 timeline was completed.

Even if Velious released today we'd still be about a year from the end of P99 timeline.

One thing a lot of people don't seem to understand, though, is that SOE took over EQ during Velious era, and a lot of the late Velious changes were really part of the same meta design shift that took EQ through Luclin and PoP.

Spitty 10-30-2013 05:16 PM

Yes, I'm sure.

I outright quit during Luclin on live, and would sadly do the same if I had to deal with it again on P99.

8 years of expansions and "improvements" did nothing to change my mind. 4 years of Velious seems like a luxury compared to what EQ became after Luclin warped the essence of the game I grew up playing.


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