Quickfingers (30)0% (60)11% (90)15% 07/04/11 04/07/14

All I'm saying is, do you even raid tiggles :3

Thank you for productive info. Was mostly bored at my desk thinking about it. I appreciate it sirs

I would like to see the Class C instant 'upgrade' removed from VP with Velious

I dont mean to put it on a FFA/C/R rotation but I would like to see it not flag your guild for Class C upon slaying one of the VP dragons

hopefully this will be considered

The term is armchair philosopher and it carries over pretty well in this thread.

armchair raider tiggles needs to back away from this thread.

I'm on sabbatical because It's hard to stay motivated when I geared out all my characters 2 years ago when you where farming seb and whoring out your account info to everyone in your guild. I'll be back for velious along with all the rest of the old TMO that burnt out.

All I'm saying is that unless your in TMO and to a lesser extent IB you should have no say in the raid scene because you are insignificant and/or bad.

There you have it, you are in the restricted class, you should not have the right to the same content as the competitive class. The GMs have already expressed disdain for your kind because they wanted Class R to be a way for guilds to gear up to try and compete and all you guys ever do is rotate mobs and cry for more hand outs.

not going to get into a trolling war here but when the next expansion is released it makes no sense that VP would still be the benchmark the upgrades you to Class C since that was the pinnacle of the previous expansion. Keyword is: WAS.

thats my opinion

We still need 2 dragons come Velious Sow swords for alts and Crowns for mains so maybe after Velious has been out for a year or two you can be allowed in but not before. If you want gear you should learn how to complete, Come velious you could clear a VP/Kunark dragon unmolested while TMO is in a 9 hour ToV clear. You don't want that though you want hand outs.

last response:

VP would still be FFA IMO and you would still own PD and whats his face

but it would be nice to attempt them come Velious without being forced into Class C for any of the R guilds

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