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Victorio 07-03-2014 11:29 PM

For what it's worth, I was a cleric during Velious and did all of the raids, and Klandi almost never feared me if I had a bard in group when I was lvl 60, even though I didn't wear much resist gear

wycca 07-03-2014 11:45 PM

Yes, the cap was 255 on resists then too I might add. Nobody had 400+ resists like we do with a bard. The groups resisting stuff consistently in these videos didn't have over 255 resists.

Resist system borked.

Scrubosaur 07-04-2014 01:39 AM

That's exactly how we ran things in the Wrecker's guild on Tholuxe Paells. We had 3 bards (I was one) which we placed in the a group with tanks, healers and top DPS (monks/rogues). When I watched the videos it appears the tank groups aren't getting feared. Levels made a big difference in resists during that time period and in my guild getting level 60 > any resist gear you could equip.

Nirgon 07-04-2014 12:34 PM

Basically entire raid gets feared unlike how it is here now with everyone resisting every fear haha basically

(I remember listening to the same story when Trakanon got fixed)

Hopefully Lady Nev and Aaryonar aoe lands every time

Scrubosaur 07-05-2014 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nirgon (Post 1522377)
Basically entire raid gets feared unlike how it is here now with everyone resisting every fear haha basically

(I remember listening to the same story when Trakanon got fixed)

Hopefully Lady Nev and Aaryonar aoe lands every time

Whirl til you hurl was almost unresistable. Even playing live on Vulak it would hit a majority of the raid even with bard boxes in the groups.

wycca 07-05-2014 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nirgon (Post 1522377)
Basically entire raid gets feared unlike how it is here now with everyone resisting every fear haha basically

(I remember listening to the same story when Trakanon got fixed)

Hopefully Lady Nev and Aaryonar aoe lands every time

Um, did you even try Klandicar on beta? The fear is pretty much only resistable like 5-10% of the time with 400+ MR. Those videos, as well as classic accounts, show that the fear is resistable, reliably so, and this is with resist caps of 255.

Every single classic discussion thread of Kland barely mentions the fear - they mainly focus on healing the AE and the importance of debuffing him. Those two things (healing the AE and the debuffs) are quite clearly the most notable things about the fight. If everyone was getting feared (warriors/clerics) 90-95% of the time, you think they would have talked about that non-stop. They don't, and the videos quite clearly show that 2-3 groups of people, with a max MR of 255 (not 500), aren't getting feared.

Victorio 07-07-2014 12:22 PM

Nirgon please go see the posts I make in this thread:

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=156630

Especially the last two with videos of lvl 60s in velious gear fighting Kland / Zland, zland especially.

Rallyd 07-08-2014 06:00 PM

We just did Kland last night, tried somewhere in the arena of 100-150 slows on her while aggro kiting, not a single one landed. This is with Puretone Occlusion, Tashanian, and Malo.

Seems to me they left the kunark MR immunity on dragons in for velious dragons as well, this is incorrect as well, Velious dragons lacked the kunark MR immunity because they were able to change the 32k hp limit in velious, so the Immunity was no longer necessary.

Also at 481 MR on my 60 iksar monk i resisted fear 0 times out of approximately 11, Sounds like some major work still needs to be done.

Nirgon 07-08-2014 06:52 PM

Side note: Fear like root and charm should do checks for breaking early too

The 256+ stuff needs to go somehow also

Orruar 07-09-2014 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rallyd (Post 1526432)
We just did Kland last night, tried somewhere in the arena of 100-150 slows on her while aggro kiting, not a single one landed. This is with Puretone Occlusion, Tashanian, and Malo.

Seems to me they left the kunark MR immunity on dragons in for velious dragons as well, this is incorrect as well, Velious dragons lacked the kunark MR immunity because they were able to change the 32k hp limit in velious, so the Immunity was no longer necessary.

Also at 481 MR on my 60 iksar monk i resisted fear 0 times out of approximately 11, Sounds like some major work still needs to be done.

Note that Klandi may be flagged as a belly caster here (which is wrong I believe). When we were testing with wiz fire lure (-300 FR), it would only land when the wizard was directly under Klandi.


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