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thieros 03-04-2015 05:16 PM

This happened to some epic MQers as well. I cant recommend enough that people play with logs on so there's always proof of whatever you need to prove, be it petitionquest or out of the norm cases like this. CYA friends!

Doil_Boil 03-04-2015 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daldaen (Post 1808939)
Part of why I got tired of selling PLs.

"Yea this 13 enchanter is my main, oh and do you have time to PL me to 49?".

"Uh not today but you do know that will be well over 50k right?"

"Yes that's fine. I spent a decent bit of time flipping items in EC..."

Surrrrrrrrrrre ya did.

I just petition. Deru told me a while back that they would rather I have the money than the dude that bought it for dollars.

Also I kinda consider it a service, since it roots out the RMT buyers and helps unravel that whole web.

Thadew 03-04-2015 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erati (Post 1808830)
do you remember anything about the timing of the 'tainted payment' and the actual Chardok proxying

If the trade happened while you were actively doing Chardok I suppose at the very least, encounter logs could be used to prove you were indeed doing Chardok AE during the time around when this transaction occurred which would help corroborate your story since you dont have logs of your /tell convo with the RMTer who paid you for proxy.

Yeah, the tainted payment was at 15:18:26 (I suppose this is PST time, isn't that the timezone of the server? But I am not certain).

The encounter logs have some info but for some reason there is a 3 hour gap between last logged kill on enchanter and the platinum trade. I have no idea why, it could be:
  • A bad streak of wipes
  • Waiting for a replacement enchanter
  • Logs not registering kills since you do not get kills when out of group and stunning
  • Something else I have overlooked

I am hoping logs could shed some light on that plus give info about who the proxy person, and thus the RMT'er, was.

/Thad

Wabic 03-04-2015 05:35 PM

Damn, Dwyn sorry to hear about that and wish I could help. It could easily have happened to me. I checked my logs and it doesn't look like I did Chardok that day.

maskedmelon 03-04-2015 05:37 PM

The problem with this situation is that there is no way to tell if the PLVLer is an RMT customer or not. I assume the reason for the ban is that the PLVLee was identified as an RMT mule/transaction account. It is a difficult situation to say the least and one by which a tremendous amount of 'dirty' plat likely changes hands. :/

Thulack 03-04-2015 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raeanin (Post 1808950)
It's especially BS because no one would spend all that time flipping just to blow it on PLing. I turned a few items donated to me when I started in to about 10k net worth in a couple months of flipping stuff, but there's no way in hell I would liquidate it all on PLing to be left with nothing!

It happens sometimes :D

maskedmelon 03-04-2015 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raeanin (Post 1808950)
It's especially BS because no one would spend all that time flipping just to blow it on PLing. I turned a few items donated to me when I started in to about 10k net worth in a couple months of flipping stuff, but there's no way in hell I would liquidate it all on PLing to be left with nothing!

I am with you, I raised about 25k with my L7 enchanter running the SoM around 4 or 5 dozen times and then trading in EC when I started. But all of my money was always tied up in items and once I had things I liked, there is no way I was going to spend any more time running that damn quest or trading in EC to trivialize my spiffiness with expedited levels!

Master Roshi 03-04-2015 06:05 PM

Did you mention how many pulls this tainted amount was for?

Thadew 03-04-2015 06:07 PM

Yes Master Roshi, but unfortunately that does not prove anything.

/Thadew

Pringles 03-04-2015 08:15 PM

This is why anytime im trading money and not receiving anything - especially when my first character is the receiver of items and my second character is the payer of plat (eg: EC mule), i spell out specifically in tells on both characters what is going on and make sure my logs are on. Dunno if it'll help prevent any bans, but at least it'll be easy to prove my case.


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