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fan D 02-16-2016 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jauna (Post 2194053)
The extra added stressful probability of dying while exping.

Thats pretty much it, I hate the idea of always looking over my shoulder, or constantly watching /who to keep an eye out on potential or well known threats and sometimes just not trusting group members.

And that, is probably the biggest reason people do not and will not play Red99.

Yeah sure the devs pretty much did everything they could aside from add Plane of Knowledge ports, soulbinders, boat translocators, spawning with your gear after death, not making pvp a thing until 60, free gear packs at 60.

People just do not want the added stress of constantly worrying while exping.

The added stress is exactly what i want and appeals to me about red99. I had been on a PvE server on live, and played on blue here for years. I was in casual and the most hardcore guilds here on blue99, I felt like I did all there was to do on Everquest after a couple years. When I first on started on project1999 I had a simple goal, and thatl was to do dungeon crawls in the zones I hadn't explored on live, such as Uguk, Lguk, Unrest basement, Mistmoore Castle, Runnyeye, Droga/Nurga, Howling Stones, kaesora and Splitpaw. After I done all that I wanted to see all of the raid content I hadn't seen on live. I raided everything Kunark/Classic had to offer. I felt like the game that use to feel infinite and overwhelming was now simple and small.

red99 is like a whole new everquest, a new challenge and added element of the game and once I experienced it there is absolutely no chance I could ever play everquest without it. I understand when my friends explain to me they have no interest in pvp and don't want to deal with it, but I genuinely feel sorry for them because they can not see what I do in red99 everquest

Sage Truthbearer 02-16-2016 12:53 PM

I don't think PvP in EQ is fun compared to PvP games that I already play. When I want to get my PvP fix, there's a lot more interesting options for me.

I think EQ PvP was more interesting on live when you had a choice of large population PvP servers with different rulesets to choose from. But an emulator with a FFA ruleset, low population, and no cycled wipes isn't very appealing.

derpcake 02-16-2016 01:00 PM

i can't invest time on a 150 pop server thats bleeding to death, that seems silly

that feeling where you are invested is gone for me, since the server is in a downward spiral population wise, further facilitated by the ban of x-server trades

along with the discord story and other recent events, the lack of updates and effort has me fearing for the entire p1999 project

could just be me

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Originally Posted by Sage Truthbearer (Post 2194079)
I don't think PvP in EQ is fun compared to PvP games that I already play.

this doesn't make sense

you like PVP, and you like EQ, but somehow you dislike EQ pvp?

I remember the first time I was in mistmoore, like 30ish people in the zone (server thriving), since our group didn't find a camp, we trashed the pond group and took theirs

1 hour later we did the same to GY

EQ pvp is fun and rewarding, not in R99's current state though

derpcake 02-16-2016 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jauna (Post 2194053)
People just do not want the added stress of constantly worrying while exping.

I will 100% of the time take this "extra stress" since it means no queues, no rotations, no FTE-bullshit, no shamans poopsocking tranix for months on end, ...

Losing a small bit of plat and xp is meaningless when compared to the blue bullshit one avoids

Do note I did not understand this before I made the jump myself.

brecon 02-16-2016 01:12 PM

Red is worth a shot. It's funny how different the xp grind and item farming is from the Blue server. Some very popular camps on Blue are rarely occupied on Red, either due to the items stats being less useful on Red, or due to the difficulty to hold the camp due to PVP.

What's cool about Red is that at level 60, you still have lots of things left to accomplish for your toon. Even if you don't actively PVP (ie search it out), you can still be a target for PVP. There is a lot of worn gear, clickies, and consumables that can help you survive. You may raid because you want great gear that you can't get from solo or single grouping - but the gear serves a purpose besides simply killing the same dragon with slightly better stats next week. The gear makes you more robust in PVP, better able to defend your camp or deal with PVP that you encounter.

The blue equivalent, for me, is lvl 60 toons that do "solo artist challenges." That's a real reason to get certain gear, consumables, and clickies that the average blue player doesn't experience. On Red, you learn early on the value of pumices and how to stack your buffs, and how buff stacking works on other players and mobs. You start to really think about your encounters.

The bonus for those who enjoy PVE challenges (like me) is that the Red population is lower, so it is far easier to get access to those mobs to practice - solo, duo, whatever. My high 40s xp group took down tranix because he was just up and we were alone in the zone. The downside (if you can call it that) is that you can't recharge or use some of the clickies like puppet strings, bladestoppers, and soulfires which trivialize so many of the solo artist challenges.

Jauna 02-16-2016 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by fan D (Post 2194075)
The added stress is exactly what i want and appeals to me about red99.

And if more people thought like you, we would not be having the daily "Come play with me" threads, but most do not.. and that is the point.

korilla 02-16-2016 01:15 PM

I played on red. i had a lvl 60. at a certain point i had an epiphany that even after winning raid loot that there isn't a point because 1/2 the server is in one guild and the other 1/4 of the population is outside of my range.

Jauna 02-16-2016 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by derpcake (Post 2194094)
I will 100% of the time take this "extra stress" since it means no queues, no rotations, no FTE-bullshit, no shamans poopsocking tranix for months on end, ...

Losing a small bit of plat and xp is meaningless when compared to the blue bullshit one avoids

Do note I did not understand this before I made the jump myself.

Doesnt Red only have one guild that monopolizes the server and if you dont get in, you dont raid?

That seems stressful to me.

fan D 02-16-2016 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jauna (Post 2194105)
Doesnt Red only have one guild that monopolizes the server and if you dont get in, you dont raid?

That seems stressful to me.

No.

There are 3-4 other guilds that raid and do planars.

derpcake 02-16-2016 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jauna (Post 2194105)
Doesnt Red only have one guild that monopolizes the server and if you dont get in, you dont raid?

That seems stressful to me.

its impossible not to get in unless you already have a long history

beats blue really

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Originally Posted by fan D (Post 2194108)
No.

There are 3-4 other guilds that raid and do planars.

man u such a laugh


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