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I really liked GW2 world vs world. However, I'm not fan of their pve content and wvw looses its fun after awhile. Good game though.

You mean you got bored with running around with a bunch of idiots flipping ownership of towers for hours on end?

lol the only game with the balls and clout to charge a subscription apparently while simultaneously running a successful cash shop.

These competitors must be green with envy.

Blizzard learned a lot with The Death and Return of Superman.

Try Darkfall

Your assessment is pretty accurate OP. If you actually like the open world PvP aspect, I recommend the new Darkfall New Dawn coming out. Not to be confused with the other indie Darkfall: Rise of Agon, which will essentially be a more polished version of the fatally flawed original Darkfall.

New Dawn intends to make a more authentic sandbox world out of Darkfall, more in line with something like classic UO or Eve where a player can actually succeed and enjoy a niche within the world without having to become a full-time PvP player. It has potential on paper; it's just a matter of whether they can deliver.

Also, it's pretty obvious at this point that Pantheon will be what most of us have hoped and dream for in another MMORPG. I did not think they would be able to pull it off at the launch of their kickstarter, but anyone who watches the most recent streams, it's clear that they are more than capable with a solid team now, and are on track to bring us an EQ for the modern era.

lol, no

Eve Online is as great as EQ was, just in a very different package... Sci-fi and PVP focused instead of fantasy and PVE focused, but the harshness and depth and breadth and social nature are all there.

Only downside to it imo is the world is generally empty as a world. The world itself is just the place where stuff happens 99% of the time instead of something worth experiencing in and of itself. Not that there isn't a lot happening or that it isn't fun stuff, but the whole "player-driven awesomenessssss" line the Eve devs love to throw around is as much an excuse for not developing PvE content as it is a true description of great player-driven shenanigans.

I tried Guild Wars 2 briefly. It's actually not bad, but you find yourself asking why you're endlessly running around trying to "complete" zones... plus its not very social, but then where is these days other than p99?