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SoekiWiz 02-02-2017 11:46 AM

https://wiki.project1999.com/Statistics

Jump down to Section 3, Tertiary statistics.

Good foundation of basic mechanical concepts here. Build from there.

Better to understand than have someone puke out misinformation and you take it for fact. Homework first, questions for clarity to follow.

xKoopa 02-02-2017 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jorgam (Post 2459678)
Off hand is triggered by main hand swings, so you want more main hand swings. Use your fastest weapon in your main hand and your heavy dmg weapon in your offhand.

Always good to have a 2hb on hand for higher dmg, ds on mobs and mixing it up. I would recommend a Peacebringer. It's basically a Tstaff with no proc or sexy look.

Good luck!

Wrong. Offhand swings independently of main hand. If you have a 20 delay offhand it will do a dual wield skill check every 2 secs. If that check passes then offhand swings

Jupitaur 02-02-2017 12:10 PM

Would you guys recommend upgrading Wu 2hbs Quiver to Imbued or Peacebringer, or first getting a haste item?? I'm 24 with a few hundred pp, saving up for next big purchase

xKoopa 02-02-2017 12:18 PM

I MIGHT have a pair of schw you can have. Not sure if i sold them/gave away already tho

Ill check in an hour or two and let you know

Jimjam 02-02-2017 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jorgam (Post 2459678)
Off hand is triggered by main hand swings, so you want more main hand swings. Use your fastest weapon in your main hand and your heavy dmg weapon in your offhand.

Always good to have a 2hb on hand for higher dmg, ds on mobs and mixing it up. I would recommend a Peacebringer. It's basically a Tstaff with no proc or sexy look.

Good luck!

Gotta agree with Koopa here. Having used a 25/40 in primary and 9/18 in secondary in the past I can confirm that the 9/18 had the potential to swing way more often than the 25/40.

The off hand has a chance to swing every time it's delay has elapsed. Interestingly it even has a chance to proc every time it's delay elapses, even when duel wield fails to produce a swing!

Jupitaur 02-02-2017 02:09 PM

Great advice here, thanks!

I leveled from 1-20 with the slow 1h in main hand haha, oh well.

Troxx 02-02-2017 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fadetree (Post 2459661)
Yes, fastest in main, best other ratio in off. It is known.
Also, many times 2h is a better option for commonly available weapons.

Eh, it depends on the weapon in question. At lower levels the best ratio weapon mainhand will almost always net more damage output. At higher levels as the damage bonus kicks in - faster weapons have their advantages.

From 30 up, Wu Quiv' Staff is rock solid dps to the point that few affordable dual wield weapons are relevant until you roll into the 50s.

Mid 40s to 50s you should have enough coin to upgrade to the good weapons like IFS, PB, AC etc - weapons with considerably better ratios but which carry a steeper pricetag.

For a newer guy with limited resources I'd actually just get 2x Knuckle Dusters and a WQS. Use those until mid to high 40s - even 50. After that, lots of options open up which you can start to afford.


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