That's an interesting question. What if the npc in question isn't 'procing' and is actually using an instant cast spell that has a cooldown? :eek:

Interesting. So it's not true that double attack increases proc rate? That's a bit of a bummer. However, it's interesting that a weapon can proc in the offhand slot even when the weapon doesn't swing.

So, if I'm level 15 and I have a venomous axe and a Lammy, would it be more beneficial to have Lammy in my main hand and the axe in my offhand, or should I keep the axe in my main hand for more procs? They have a pretty similar ratio, but I think Lammy edges it out just a bit.

At that level stick best ratio in primary, which is lammy anyway. When the axe in off hand swings or procs that's just a bonus. If it swings and proc you won the lottery :P.


Also, on the double attack thing I don't know. I didn't ask for logs because I think it can't be proved, but rather because I don't know either way.

The amount of swings, riposte or otherwise, do not affect the proc rate. It's based on time duration, and the rate or amount of swings do not matter.

lots of random opinions in this thread and no proof of anything given yet...

Off hand proc on delay elapsing even when no swing produce is well documented.

Here are a few excerpts from a low level warrior off handing a polished granite tomahawk.

[Wed Mar 29 19:48:13 2017] A deepwater caiman tries to bite YOU, but misses!
[Wed Mar 29 19:48:15 2017] You crush a deepwater caiman for 30 points of damage.
[Wed Mar 29 19:48:16 2017] Your muscles bulge with berserker strength.
[Wed Mar 29 19:48:16 2017] A deepwater caiman tries to bash YOU, but misses!
[Wed Mar 29 19:48:16 2017] A deepwater caiman tries to bite YOU, but misses!

[Wed Mar 29 19:48:56 2017] Your will is not sufficient to command this weapon.
[Wed Mar 29 19:48:56 2017] You crush a deepwater caiman for 3 points of damage.
[Wed Mar 29 19:48:56 2017] Your muscles bulge with berserker strength.
[Wed Mar 29 19:48:56 2017] A deepwater caiman tries to kick YOU, but YOUR magical skin absorbs the blow!
[Wed Mar 29 19:48:56 2017] A deepwater caiman tries to bite YOU, but misses!

[Fri Mar 31 15:55:39 2017] Auto attack is on.
[Fri Mar 31 15:55:39 2017] You crush a deepwater crocodile for 28 points of damage.
[Fri Mar 31 15:55:39 2017] Your muscles bulge with berserker strength.
[Fri Mar 31 15:55:40 2017] A deepwater crocodile tries to kick YOU, but misses!
[Fri Mar 31 15:55:40 2017] A deepwater crocodile tries to bite YOU, but YOUR magical skin absorbs the blow!

[Fri Mar 31 16:01:19 2017] You are unstunned.
[Fri Mar 31 16:01:19 2017] A caiman tries to bite YOU, but misses!
[Fri Mar 31 16:01:19 2017] Your muscles bulge with berserker strength.
[Fri Mar 31 16:01:19 2017] You kick a caiman for 1 point of damage.7

And just to show it still works after the most recent patch:

[Mon Jul 17 10:55:35 2017] You crush a forest giant evergreen for 32 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 17 10:55:35 2017] You try to crush a forest giant evergreen, but miss!
[Mon Jul 17 10:55:35 2017] Kynzo strikes a forest giant evergreen for 6 points of damage.
[Mon Jul 17 10:55:36 2017] Your muscles bulge with berserker strength.
[Mon Jul 17 10:55:37 2017] Vonarn tries to crush a forest giant evergreen, but misses!
[Mon Jul 17 10:55:37 2017] Vonarn tries to crush a forest giant evergreen, but misses!
[Mon Jul 17 10:55:37 2017] You crush a forest giant evergreen for 29 points of damage.


I'll try capture a double proc on double attack too now, but I haven't had any luck yet.