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Jimjam 04-13-2020 11:11 AM

Really the automation should be applied to whatever wastes the most of CSR time. I think reducing GM inconvenience/tedium is more important than increasing player convenience. By reducing tedious work loads for GMs they will have more time available for things that can't be resolved with automation.

/armchair

magnetaress 04-13-2020 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimjam (Post 3110876)
Really the automation should be applied to whatever wastes the most of CSR time. I think reducing GM inconvenience/tedium is more important than increasing player convenience. By reducing tedious work loads for GMs they will have more time available for things that can't be resolved with automation.

/armchair

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This post provides details regarding the /list system. The system will be hitting Beta today. There are currently only 3 item drops that are attached to this system:

Guise of the Deceiver: Level 35, Distance 150, Z Distance 40, 1 Week Lockout.

Manastone: Level 35, Distance 200, Z Distance 30, 1 Week Lockout.

JBoots: Level 25, Distance 200, 1 Week Lockout.

Each list has a minimum level noted above. You cannot join the list if you are under that level. It also has a distance above. You must be within that distance to the mob that drops the item to join the list, and you must stay within that distance for the duration of your wait. For the lists that also have a Z Distance, you must also stay within that Z difference from that location as well (For example, in Guk Bottom, going down the hall and around the corner from the Ass/Sup Room is within 150 distance, and still within 40 Z Difference. Going several floors below the room will also be within 150 distance, but not within 40 Z difference, and you will be out of range.)

Upon leaving the range of the list camp, whether you zone out, die, or walk out of range, you will be notified that you have done so and will be given 15 Minutes to return to the area. Once re-entering the area, you will be notified that you are back in range. Going back in range does NOT reset your "out of range" timer, but rather it will start replenishing at a rate of 1 second per 12 seconds spent back in the camp. This means that if you spend 10 minutes out of the camp, and you return to the camp for 10 minutes, and then leave for another 10 minutes, the following will happen: Your OOR Timer will have decayed from 15 Minutes to 5 Minutes. Your 10 minutes spent back in the camp will have added only 50 seconds to your remaining 5 minutes. 5 Minutes and 50 Seconds into your next 10 minutes out of the camp, you will be notified that you have been removed from the list.

In order to join the list, simply enter the vicinity of the camp, and type /list. If you meet the requirements, you will be asked to confirm that you'd like to join the list. The confirmation will also tell you how many people are currently in line ahead of you. You can see your position in the list at any time by typing /list while in the vicinity of the camp.

While on the list and within range, you will be subject to AFK Checks. These are most commonly a simple dialog box to confirm, however there are several other types of confirmations with smaller chances of appearing that will require different types of inputs to confirm that you are not AFK. If you do not respond to an AFK Check by the time the next one is requested, you will be removed from the list.

The list is stored persistently in a database. If at any time the server goes down for maintenance, or the zone is rebooted, you will maintain your position on the list. When the zone starts up and is accessible again, all out of range timers are reset and extended to 30 minutes.

When the item that you are on a list for has dropped, and you are position 1, you will be given a notification that the item has dropped. If you are not in range at the time, the system will skip you (and continue skipping people until it finds a list player in range). Anyone skipped will still maintain their position, as long as they return to range within their OOR Timer. The person awarded will be given exclusive permission to loot the corpse and all items on it. Nobody else will have permission to loot the corpse, even the player(s) that were merited the experience. The corpse will also not unlock like normal after a period of time. If the player who was at the top of the list does not loot the item before the corpse decays, the item rots. The player was still removed from the list and given a lockout when the mob was killed. Lockouts are indicated above, which means that once you have been granted an item from a /list, you cannot rejoin the same list for that period of time on that character.
Since no one answered my question, I went ahead and did the work and found the answer:

Put simply this is an absolutely amazing and brilliant piece of coding done by Rogaen and the fellow P99 staff. And props to them for not going crazy with /lists everywhere.

I feel like this should be extended, perhaps to some of the longest and hardest camps. People who wait months for an item deserve to list for it, if they are in range and can kill it.

I feel like lists are just as classic as CSR. We can't have 10 CSR per server working in shifts, so here we are.

Make 'red99' the place where lists don't exist... except maybe in the most extreme cases.


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