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guineapig 11-16-2009 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Arkanjil (Post 4414)
The use of instruments in the chords line won't necessarily help it do more damage...if I remember correctly from classic it made the AC debuff greater when using an instrument. I might have made the DoT tick for a little more, can't remember offhand, but I know it definitely made the AC debuff part of it better.


Yes, it did increase the damage of DoTs too, not by much but there was a difference.

solomon 11-16-2009 08:59 PM

If I remember correctly on Chords of Dissonance specifically it was +50-100% or so damage (cannot confirm % but can confirm increased damage) using a store bought lute. Any word on, say, drums working on chants?

Also, as far as the cast bar completing and nothing happening, I have observed that on lull, too.

solomon 11-19-2009 02:42 PM

Bump. Fix my class, please.

Skurd 11-19-2009 03:44 PM

A few issues with songs :
- Cinda's Charismatic Carillon (lvl11)
supposed to raise your faction level with your target by 1-2 ranks, currently instantly draws aggo (independently of your faction standing with the target, info); maybe set to offensive instead of friendly or something similar?
- Kelin's Lucid Lullaby (lvl15)
used to be an AE mez in classic, currently only works as single target (info)
- Shauri's Sonorous Clouding (lvl19)
bugs a lot on the initial cast (nothing happens, way way more than other songs, maybe due to the fact it requires a wind instrument to play?), the first two ticks often do not work (displaying "A soft mist surrounds you" and "You become visible" one after the other, maybe the effect of invising is considered an action and breaks invis at first?)
- All songs
->Recurring messages do not display, like for the song above, "A soft mist surrounds you" was displayed every successful tick, it currently doesn't, same for Hymn of Restoration and all kinds of songs that you leave on for several ticks
->No "worn off" messages on songs like Chords of Dissonance(AE DoT) or Largo's Melodic Binding (slow).

I feel like these are issues that are not related to the general timing issues that cause all the other bard song problems and should be able to be solved fairly easily.

Tollen 11-19-2009 04:00 PM

I had that happen to me too with the faction song, but didn't think much of it.

the 15 mez is not AE http://lucy.alkabor.com/spell_724.html has best spell info for our server imo.

invise song is lvl 19 and should require wind instrument to use. yes it means you cant invise for CR unless you buy a new wind instrument.

Insidious 11-19-2009 09:08 PM

best info?

Use the wayback machine, that's the real best info.

Skurd 11-24-2009 06:22 PM

Another issue with songs :
-lvl 28 bard charm song (Siren)
once charm fades the mob HP gets stuck at 100% (visually only, people kill it normally) and you cannot hit it with meele attacks (only you, your group can for example)

Gildiss Gram 11-25-2009 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skurd (Post 6897)
Another issue with songs :
-lvl 28 bard charm song (Siren)
once charm fades the mob HP gets stuck at 100% (visually only, people kill it normally) and you cannot hit it with meele attacks (only you, your group can for example)

I've never had that issue so far.

Quote:

invise song is lvl 19 and should require wind instrument to use. yes it means you cant invise for CR unless you buy a new wind instrument.
Are you stating a fact? This has nothing to do with the problems this song currently has.

The way I've found around it is to play the song for a tick and if it drops early or right before the refresh I sing it again until it works without fading at all. Hasn't let me down so far just requires a couple start ups like an old lawn mower.

mroletta 03-01-2010 12:55 AM

My friends and I were testing some of the bugs regarding the bard song successfully casting on the client side, but then no song actually registering and seemed to have narrowed it down to the following:

- My bard will cast a song and the cast bar will move down but nothing registers at the end of casting.
- Every time this happens, other people register "Soandso missed a note.", but that isn't being relayed on the bard's client and hence the song continues playing but nothing happens because the server registered it as a missed note (and relayed it correctly to other clients). It seems that this is where the disconnect/mis-sync occurs.

Hope this helps in addressing the issue because I loved my live bard and hope I can continue playing this one.

Edit: This actually makes sense now that I recall my bard on live. There were times when it would start to play a song only to register "You have missed a note." about 200ms later. I'm curious if on live they implemented a recheck for the bard's client that was a band-aid solution but was 95% adequate.

guineapig 03-01-2010 01:09 AM

To answer the question about the faction song, all spells that are supposed to help faction are currently broken. Enchanter faction spells also draw agro the same way that the bard song does.

I also wanted to bump the fact that holding a lute still does not increase dot damage like it should.

Can anyone confirm that it helps with hitpoint and mana regen? I haven't had a chance to test it, don't have a parser and frankly, I don't trust the hitpoint numbers on my inventory window. They always jump around like crazy.


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