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Goregasmic 01-06-2025 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Samoht (Post 3714748)
See, this is what you did wrong. This is the gambler's fallacy. Your previous attempts do not bear any influence over the current attempt. It's always the same flat success rate.

I'm not great at statistics so correct me if I'm wrong but if you have a 40% fail rate there's a point where the odds of failing over X number of times in a row become pretty much statistically insignificant. It is not impossible but the probability is very low. The gamblers fallacy comes in when you believe the results of previous rolls impact the results of the next one, which is wrong but probabilities are still a thing.

So in essence, at 165 tailoring you have about 40% chance to fail. The probabilities would be that you'd have 1% chance to fail 5 combines so if you farm enough stuff for 5 combines it is pretty fair to expect one of them will work out even though it isn't impossible it doesn't.

I ended up getting my shawl on the 7th try so you could say I'm in the 1% club :cool:

cd288 01-06-2025 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goregasmic (Post 3714804)
I'm not great at statistics so correct me if I'm wrong but if you have a 40% fail rate there's a point where the odds of failing over X number of times in a row become pretty much statistically insignificant. It is not impossible but the probability is very low. The gamblers fallacy comes in when you believe the results of previous rolls impact the results of the next one, which is wrong but probabilities are still a thing.

So in essence, at 165 tailoring you have about 40% chance to fail. The probabilities would be that you'd have 1% chance to fail 5 combines so if you farm enough stuff for 5 combines it is pretty fair to expect one of them will work out even though it isn't impossible it doesn't.

I ended up getting my shawl on the 7th try so you could say I'm in the 1% club :cool:

You are correct. Probability calculations are a very different thing from the gambler's fallacy.

onmove_broke 01-06-2025 08:20 PM

Rolled a 0 out of 222 on a T-staff. Spent 8k on a Word for my lv 49 pet and failed

Old_PVP 01-07-2025 11:32 AM

Fails on trivial combines, sometimes a couple fails in a row. Makes me mad every time.

Ennewi 01-07-2025 03:24 PM

Years back, before green server or velious testing, fungi group formed around christmas break with the goal of obtaining 1 tunic per member. Within an hour or two, fungi after fungi kept dropping and my tank lost /random after /random. A rogue joined, won tunic and left right after, saying something came up. Another rogue joined, won tunic, but stayed for hours afterwards because the consecutive fungis suddenly stopped dropping and they felt bad. From then on there would be no more tunics. A few holdouts insisted they would stay but it was very late in the evening by then, with everyone having plans the next day/week. So we called it.

My other tank must have attended a good 50 or so scout rolls, sometimes with the bare minimum numbers present, yet never won the random.

shovelquest 01-07-2025 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by onmove_broke (Post 3714851)
Rolled a 0 out of 222 on a T-staff. Spent 8k on a Word for my lv 49 pet and failed

What was it like being hitler in your past life? :p

shovelquest 01-07-2025 04:46 PM

As opposed to the unlucky folk.

I'd like to hear from the folk that generally think, "Im a lucky guy" like.. everything goes your way and you win everything, and have no real concept of the idea of "bad luck" and wonder if everyone that complains about it is crazy.

Or even better, you're well aware of your luck and just laugh about it and bet on black every time and a hot babe trips and falls on you and both your clothes fall off etc.

Opekyn 01-07-2025 07:57 PM

Happened to me just this last week on the Chardok bridge:

Critical Paci resist --> FD Fail --> Your Gate Collapses
ripbozo

Swish 01-07-2025 08:57 PM

Being the first to roll on a fungi tunic with a 94...

 
...then literally the last roll is a 97 :o

Samoht 01-08-2025 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goregasmic (Post 3714804)
I'm not great at statistics so correct me if I'm wrong but if you have a 40% fail rate there's a point where the odds of failing over X number of times in a row become pretty much statistically insignificant. It is not impossible but the probability is very low. The gamblers fallacy comes in when you believe the results of previous rolls impact the results of the next one, which is wrong but probabilities are still a thing.

So in essence, at 165 tailoring you have about 40% chance to fail. The probabilities would be that you'd have 1% chance to fail 5 combines so if you farm enough stuff for 5 combines it is pretty fair to expect one of them will work out even though it isn't impossible it doesn't.

I ended up getting my shawl on the 7th try so you could say I'm in the 1% club :cool:

This sample size is no where near what's required to assume the probability is low.


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