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 Truth is we can't have rules that cannot be enforced floating around. 
	I'd say the only way to do it is a straight up ban for anyone caught doing it very intentionally. If that's the hard and fast rule, so be it. Otherwise, there's enough dispute (why should there be any) over blatantly trained shit/exploited mobs. I'm not sure we need to add grey areas like who trained what in plane of fear or if it was by accident. It's a fucking zone crammed with very hostile mobs that proc shadowsteps and have a huge social radius... If you ask for legal training, know what you're wishing for, a pop killer. Best case is going to be if someone is very blatantly caught doing it, ban. As for grey areas? I guess there's the risk factor of someone trying to do it "by accident (trololololol)" and owning their own guild or themselves with said mobs.  | 
		
 there is a fraps of it that's pretty funny will try to find the link 
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 I completely agree with you nirgon. We can start with banning bkab for admitting to training me in lower guk at the guise camp. I actually already posted to the gm's screenshots of when it happened so they have it handy on file. He actually just admitted to it earliar in this thread.  | 
		
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 Bkab must confess his crimes before the Emperor if these screen shots are found to be valid. 
	Truth is however, we need a hard and fast, set in stone rule that says what is permissible as evidence and what isn't. We already have enough problems with some of the rules here being argued over that are clearly defined (um why). What we don't need is one that says "evidence of" without clearly defining is acceptable evidence and what is not, if anything is to be accepted from players at all.  | 
		
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 someone really pissed harrison off that he swings off the nuts so much even tho he doesn't dare to play pvp 
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