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nilbog 04-15-2013 02:12 PM

Nope, the only thing fixed here was where the experience message was displayed on npc death.

Still looking for specifics for how they should be sorted.

Lazortag 04-15-2013 02:23 PM

Just using process of elimination here, I think amax is right that the factions should be listed in descending order of the absolute value of the faction hit (it can't be from highest to lowest or lowest to highest because a negative hit appears between two positive hits in that screenshot, and it can't be in alphabetical order as that screenshot also shows). This would make sense since that automatically puts the NPC's main faction first, and it seems consistent with all the evidence shown.

nilbog 04-15-2013 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazortag (Post 922206)
Just using process of elimination here, I think amax is right that the factions should be listed in descending order of the absolute value of the faction hit (it can't be from highest to lowest or lowest to highest because a negative hit appears between two positive hits in that screenshot, and it can't be in alphabetical order as that screenshot also shows). This would make sense since that automatically puts the NPC's main faction first, and it seems consistent with all the evidence shown.

Well, I have a ton of screenshots, but too many other projects going on to research this fully. Feel free to collaborate!

maximum 04-15-2013 03:35 PM

Updated my first reply with the screenshots I could scrounge. If there are more, I'll add them to this reply.

falkun 04-15-2013 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nilbog (Post 922212)
Well, I have a ton of screenshots, but too many other projects going on to research this fully. Feel free to collaborate!

Quote:

Originally Posted by maximum (Post 653045)
Screenshots with faction/exp messages:

http://www.steveprutz.com/files/image/xEQ000017.bmp (http://www.steveprutz.com/files/image/xEQ000017.bmp)

http://www.steveprutz.com/files/image/xEQ000030.bmp (http://www.steveprutz.com/files/image/xEQ000030.bmp)

Note: some appear to be from late 2001 and even possibly 2002-2003.
http://www.steveprutz.com/files/image/EQ000038.bmp
http://www.steveprutz.com/files/image/EQ000038.bmp

Notice that they all have the "spacing" that was patched, (e.g., Coalition Trade Folk Ill vs. CoalitionTradeFolkIll). I don't know when that patch came in.

I think Giegue is correct.

maximum 04-23-2013 10:21 PM

http://www.steveprutz.com/files/imag...ld%20final.jpg

Absolute values, highest to lowest.

Nirgon 04-24-2013 10:20 AM

Sort with a lil math.abs and call it a day?

Bamzal Sherbet 04-24-2013 01:16 PM

listen. here is how it is sorted...

your first assumption was correct - highest adjustment to lowest adjusment

but when two factions have the same adjusment value, then they are sub-sorted alphabetically.

case closed.

maximum 05-06-2013 12:26 PM

http://www.silverblades-suitcase.com/eq/mm_aoe.jpg

Check out this faction hit message for Drusella and HS.... it's spelled "DrusselSathir"...

http://www.silverblades-suitcase.com/eq/sperm_pet.jpg

http://www.silverblades-suitcase.com...h_skeleton.jpg

DrusselSathir is a separate bug, I guess. More evidence: http://theclanhouse.yuku.com/reply/3679#.UYfjNW39thM

nilbog 05-15-2013 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maximum (Post 947064)
DrusselSathir is a separate bug, I guess.

Fixed, pending update.


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