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Originally Posted by Cade (Post 764960)

I'm sorry that this is my first post on the P1999 forums, but I have to say something here.

In regards to the first claim about an assault weapons ban:

Do we really need these? A shotgun, hunting rifle, or handgun should be more than enough for any sort of self/home defense situation. All the people I have met who own or would like to own anything larger probably shouldn't have been allowed to. Really, in what situation do you think that you will need an assault rifle or extended magazine?

As for the UN treaty:

What does this have to do with gun control within the US? All I've been able to find about it is conservatives arguing that it will interfere with the 2nd amendment, but none of them seem to be able to explain how. It applies to international trade only.

For the record I am a gun owner and oppose domestic gun control. However these claims that Obama is trying to take our guns really get under my skin. I'm not commenting on Feinstein, as she has nothing to do with Obama or this thread.

I use assault weapons on coyotes, true story.

The term 'assault weapons' is pretty much a meaningless misnomer from the liberal media. It has no real definition other than 'scary-looking'.

Take for example an AR-15, much like what the military uses. The NATO 5.56 round is really not that powerful, and as a full metal jacket still has barely any penetration power and leaves pencil holes through the target.

Now get a .50 cal hunting rifle, and you're shooting through steel crates and still leaving exit wounds the size of watermelons.

So yea, banning assault weapons is dum, since all guns are lethal (kind of the point).

As far as high capacity magazines, it doesn't matter that much to ban them. Reloading takes literally 1 second, even with a bullet button.

It's stupid liberal feel-good laws, like back a few years in Cali you couldn't have a pistol grip and a stock on a shotgun. Liberal brain: Make dangerous weapon harder to control.

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The UN Arms Trade Treaty would impose:

* Microstamping on firearms, thus increasing the cost of each gun by about $200;

* Registration of all firearms, which is often a prelude to gun confiscation;

* Restrictions on gun sales, especially private transfers (thus, no more gun shows as we know them);

* Embargoes on firearms and materials (such as nickel and tungsten) that would limit access to many of the firearms which are sold in this country.

the dmg from a 5.56 isnt where it enters and exit lol

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Originally Posted by SamwiseRed (Post 765030)

the dmg from a 5.56 isnt where it enters and exit lol

are you trying to say that the 5.56 is some kind of special round? I'd love to hear more if that is what you are implying.

its magic jk, well its designed to tumble once its penetrated the target. i was merely responding to the statement saying 5.56 is weak because it leaves pencil holes in the target. 5.56 will put someone down if used properly.

learn to shoot better? its worked in combat zones for years. if it works on armed and trained terrorists i am sure itll take out the average low-life robber.

I am not certain on this but I think the main concern with Assualt Rifles is that they are easy to convert to fully auto. I have only handled a few so I am not sure if this goes for all of them but there are kits and/or methods to making the ones I have handled fully auto.

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Originally Posted by SamwiseRed (Post 765057)

assault rifles, by definition, are already fully automatic.

assault weapons, used by the media, is a scare tactic

Edit: I should have said most are fully automatic, they can also have burst fire capabilities (which in my opinion is still a form of fully auto)