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Actually, it was built for me. Rogean and I are married and he likes to do these things for me, he's such a sweet heart <3

FE and TMO were having good times in VP last nite. Trying be correct... just once.

Perfectly stated. I'm sure a few of the original hardcore types have come back temporarily out of curiosity, but I can't imagine those guys sticking around for long, much less getting involved in this raid scene.

I missed out on kunark content back in the day, so it will be nice when SoV is released and I might be able to see some of it :p

bump for sirken

So my understanding from Kunark/Velious definitions of Customer Service Limited zones is that Guides/GMs are to still maintain investigating possible Exception Incidents (Abuse, Disruption, or Exploitation) at the request of a player.

Exception Incidents are defined to include Disruption, which itself includes Harrassment and Zone/Area Disruption, which training mobs would fall under to any reasonable individual (which is why they are investigated and punished in non-CS Limited zones.)

So what is the reason for the "non-canonical" allowance of training in VP (and in future CS-Limited zones upon Velious release) here? I mean, if we're going back to make everything like it was, why is training being allowed in these zones when clearly it was still subject to punishment on Live despite being "CS Limited"?

This is a good discussion but really makes me think you guys would be a lot happier on red server where there are more consequences for being this sort of dirtbag.

Yeah, the consequence that the dirtbag Red players face is a nearly empty server with nothing but a handful of other dirtbags to hang around with. It's like EQ hell.

Harassment – targeting another player, or group of players, to harm or inconvenience them
Zone/Area Disruption – monopolizing most or all of the kills in an area rather than stealing from a specific player or group of players, deliberately blocking a doorway or narrow area so other players can’t get past, refusing to cooperate with the other parties at a contested spawn site after having been instructed to do so by a CS Representative

So Zone/Area disruption? Aka bards?