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ya.dingus 06-14-2022 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malikail (Post 3469805)
This is assuming a lot of players are on both servers, at least 3 or 400 at peak times, i don't buy it.

otherwise you're looking at around 1000 at off hours and 2300 at peak hours spiking to 2500+ after a quake.

That's what the numbers would look like if the servers merged today and yes that is unplayable garbage. Verant split povar with less than 2300 at peak hours and did it again as it steadily averaged 2k. Clearly the game is not designed for that kind of population.

I fail to see why you have multiple threads to stir the same pot? Are you that desperate to see a merge? The last patch is barely in and you want everyone to start over?

even if the population numbers were what the devs want to see before they merge and i think they are much higher right now, I would expect they'd wait at least 6 months.

It doesn't even make sense to me why you're pushing this all over the boards, granted i'm weird i despise leveling so starting over on a new server yet again is a hard pass.

EDIT: are you in europe or working an odd schedule? I get up around 10am eastern daily and when i log in between 1030 an 11 on my mule blue is consistently between 500 and 600 and green between 700 and 800, the numbers go up from there as the day goes on. The only time i see the numbers you quote is when i log off at night around 3 am eastern.


Man I told ya, it's the same blueberry brigade trying to force a merge which would be harmful to the servers.

They want the pixels and legacy loot, that's all it comes down too. They're dishonest, and selfish, and damned be the community as long as they get their loot.

Let them rot on blue.

ya.dingus 06-14-2022 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tethler (Post 3469818)
I think what you're not taking into account here is that a bunch of people on green would just take a break until green 2.0 starts and roll up again there when it launches, so I seriously doubt the numbers will be as high as you're listing here.

Green is "ending" and people are still playing it despite knowing a new one is coming.

So out goes that little rose tinted "merge with us, it'll be fine" theory.

It's trash garbage all these justifications trying to merge w/blue.

See ya on green 2.0

Allishia 06-14-2022 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ya.dingus (Post 3469754)
Not at all, I'm all for merging.

But only after they PUUURRGGEE BABY.

This thread has renewed my vision. Maybe the servers need to merge. But instead of just merging, maybe we PURGE EVERYTHING and start this beautiful project at ground zero.

No history of RMT, no history of duping, no long term server monopolies on loot, raid progression, or history of administrative abuse.

It.will.be.beautiful.

Danth... I just want to be puuuuuurree.




Look at these blueberries Danth, look at what the pixels do to a man. They corrupt him, twist his spirit. His greed is the only thing that remains after a while, and it cloys not just for the pixels in his possession, but the pixels in yours and my possession. It's a sickness Danth, and so long as there is a division between green and blue, there will always be a divisiveness within the playerbase.

Look at them Danth, bombarding the forums in droves, look how it has turned them against their fellow man; these wretches bereft of spirit, their humanity withered away until nothing but the ghastly shade of a man given substance by his greed alone.

Pitiful, wretched, things they be now.

Danth, they need your help. They need you, to wipe the servers Danth.

Once reuinification is achieved, imagine the sever eutopia we could live in. It would be a paradise.

No longer would polluted loot diminish the souls of our fellow man. Destroy the sickness, save the man Danth.

Ok now I'm positive he is just trolling lol, funny dingus, whose your main account?

PlsNoBan 06-14-2022 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malikail (Post 3469805)
This is assuming a lot of players are on both servers, at least 3 or 400 at peak times, i don't buy it.

otherwise you're looking at around 1000 at off hours and 2300 at peak hours spiking to 2500+ after a quake.

That's what the numbers would look like if the servers merged today and yes that is unplayable garbage. Verant split povar with less than 2300 at peak hours and did it again as it steadily averaged 2k. Clearly the game is not designed for that kind of population.

I fail to see why you have multiple threads to stir the same pot? Are you that desperate to see a merge? The last patch is barely in and you want everyone to start over?

even if the population numbers were what the devs want to see before they merge and i think they are much higher right now, I would expect they'd wait at least 6 months.

It doesn't even make sense to me why you're pushing this all over the boards, granted i'm weird i despise leveling so starting over on a new server yet again is a hard pass.

EDIT: are you in europe or working an odd schedule? I get up around 10am eastern daily and when i log in between 1030 an 11 on my mule blue is consistently between 500 and 600 and green between 700 and 800, the numbers go up from there as the day goes on. The only time i see the numbers you quote is when i log off at night around 3 am eastern.

I haven't started any threads about this. I just respond to the idiot that keeps bringing it up. Not sure where you're getting 2300+ from. The pop across all 3 current p99 servers has been 1500-1800 primetime for some time now. This includes people playing multiple servers simultaneously. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if 100+ people were multi-server boxing and thus those numbers would need to be subtracted in a merge scenario.

bobjonesp99 06-14-2022 10:47 AM

i think they probably wont merge. the reason being that green is devoid of pet windows and other things that they "kept" on blue, but removed from green. it also was a beta server where many things existed for much longer than they should have.

i also dont think they will do green 2.0 since the stakeholders in the project seem a little detached. if there is a green 2.0, i would suspect either blue gets merged into green 1.0 (not the otherway around), or all the new green servers at the end of the timeline get dumped into green 1.0.

cd288 06-14-2022 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malikail (Post 3469805)
This is assuming a lot of players are on both servers, at least 3 or 400 at peak times, i don't buy it.

otherwise you're looking at around 1000 at off hours and 2300 at peak hours spiking to 2500+ after a quake.

That's what the numbers would look like if the servers merged today and yes that is unplayable garbage. Verant split povar with less than 2300 at peak hours and did it again as it steadily averaged 2k. Clearly the game is not designed for that kind of population.

I fail to see why you have multiple threads to stir the same pot? Are you that desperate to see a merge? The last patch is barely in and you want everyone to start over?

even if the population numbers were what the devs want to see before they merge and i think they are much higher right now, I would expect they'd wait at least 6 months.

It doesn't even make sense to me why you're pushing this all over the boards, granted i'm weird i despise leveling so starting over on a new server yet again is a hard pass.

EDIT: are you in europe or working an odd schedule? I get up around 10am eastern daily and when i log in between 1030 an 11 on my mule blue is consistently between 500 and 600 and green between 700 and 800, the numbers go up from there as the day goes on. The only time i see the numbers you quote is when i log off at night around 3 am eastern.

Lmao what are you smoking? We never have 2,300 players online at the same time, even primetime on weekends. The most characters we ever had online was ~2k and as I said in another comment that was in 2018 over the winter holidays.

The most we've seen on Green and Blue in the aggregate in the past year is like 1,700-1,800 (and I believe that was a weekend evening and may have had a quake (although I can't recall for sure if there was a quake or not)).

You do realize there is a website that tracks the server population for the last 12 months so literally everything you're saying can be factually checked and disproven?

EDIT: Also, just to address your misleading comment on the Povar split, that was in November 2000. It was decided that pop ranges from 2,300-2,500 were too large for a server with just classic old world and Kunark. By the time Velious was reached, many servers had OVER 3,000 PLAYERS online on average at any given time of day; there were new servers launched either just before or right after Velious launch IIRC and those servers were roughly 2k players online on average throughout the day. I was CSR in era and can confirm all of that is accurate. So basically everything you're saying is 100% COMPLETELY INCORRECT.

Toxigen 06-14-2022 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ya.dingus (Post 3469754)
Not at all, I'm all for merging.

But only after they PUUURRGGEE BABY.

This thread has renewed my vision. Maybe the servers need to merge. But instead of just merging, maybe we PURGE EVERYTHING and start this beautiful project at ground zero.

No history of RMT, no history of duping, no long term server monopolies on loot, raid progression, or history of administrative abuse.

It.will.be.beautiful.

Danth... I just want to be puuuuuurree.




Look at these blueberries Danth, look at what the pixels do to a man. They corrupt him, twist his spirit. His greed is the only thing that remains after a while, and it cloys not just for the pixels in his possession, but the pixels in yours and my possession. It's a sickness Danth, and so long as there is a division between green and blue, there will always be a divisiveness within the playerbase.

Look at them Danth, bombarding the forums in droves, look how it has turned them against their fellow man; these wretches bereft of spirit, their humanity withered away until nothing but the ghastly shade of a man given substance by his greed alone.

Pitiful, wretched, things they be now.

Danth, they need your help. They need you, to wipe the servers Danth.

Once reuinification is achieved, imagine the sever eutopia we could live in. It would be a paradise.

No longer would polluted loot diminish the souls of our fellow man. Destroy the sickness, save the man Danth.


Sorry you don't got purge. Hope this helps.

Consider blue, greens getting merged in anyway.

ya.dingus 06-14-2022 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toxigen (Post 3469908)
Sorry you don't got purge. Hope this helps.

Consider blue, greens getting merged in anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrekMzfC7Gw

You wish son, see ya on green 2.0 when blue just sits and goes mad like they did in the lighthouse.

Toxigen 06-14-2022 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ya.dingus (Post 3469920)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrekMzfC7Gw

You wish son, see ya on green 2.0 when blue just sits and goes mad like they did in the lighthouse.

Alarming levels of immersion.

Obligatory sorry you don't got mental health, hope this helps.

ya.dingus 06-14-2022 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toxigen (Post 3469922)
Alarming levels of immersion.

Obligatory sorry you don't got mental health, hope this helps.

Obligatory apologies, sorry you can't detect satire. Alarming levels of detached from reality.

Looking forward to seeing you on 2.0 green though!


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