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Alarti0001 11-22-2012 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arsenalpow (Post 773198)
yes, good job on Taken doing a Hate clear with Inny in window with 60+ hours to go, no other guild has ever had that strategy - they definitely are "stepping up"

but god forbid inny is short in window, then everyone will just sit on the spawn point just like any other highly coveted raid target

I never see you?

Jarnauga 11-22-2012 08:47 PM

Im personnally in favor of a split rotation/"competition" system.

Half the pops rotated. No alt guilds or switching guilds as needed. You have to do the tracking on your own and kill the target in the hour after it pops. I'd like some kind of "progression" system too, like, you can't be on a rotation for VS or Trak if you can't kill Gorenaire on your own, or can't be on rotation for the kunark dragons if you can't kill Innoruuk.. stuff like that.

There's still a way for TMO to wave their dicks at everyone showing us all the phat loots they got on a 12 year old game..

Also, come on. Stop calling whatever is happening right now on this server is classic. I come from Karana server, with a gentleman agreement to rotate stuff.

LOL, competition: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYQdmLgc71Q

Alarti0001 11-22-2012 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jarnauga (Post 773220)
Im personnally in favor of a split rotation/"competition" system.

Half the pops rotated. No alt guilds or switching guilds as needed. You have to do the tracking on your own and kill the target in the hour after it pops. I'd like some kind of "progression" system too, like, you can't be on a rotation for VS or Trak if you can't kill Gorenaire on your own, or can't be on rotation for the kunark dragons if you can't kill Innoruuk.. stuff like that.

There's still a way for TMO to wave their dicks at everyone showing us all the phat loots they got on a 12 year old game..

Also, come on. Stop calling whatever is happening right now on this server is classic. I come from Karana server, with a gentleman agreement to rotate stuff.

LOL, competition: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYQdmLgc71Q

Post velious ~

Splorf22 11-22-2012 10:26 PM

What would be awesome IMO is if we had a rotation on 'ordinary' targets but competition on the simultaneous repops (assuming rogean implements them).

What's really crazy imo is how many guilds would have a legitimate claim to a slot in the rotation. For Innoruuk for example I would guess aside from the usual suspects TMO/BDA/FE we'd have Taken/Divinity who can clearly handle it and probably the newer guilds FV/Asgard/FC as well could manage it if they weren't racing TMO. Maybe Europa as well although I don't have a lot of experience. With a little time to prepare I'm even guessing my humble A-team could take down Innoruuk with 10.

For Trakanon/Gorenaire things get harder; I'm guessing Taken/Divinity could still manage it (I heard taken took down isle 6 in sky recently?) but probably not the others, but that's still 5 guilds so 1 trak / 15 days.

TL;DR: we all need to send Nilbog so much booze he hits the 'Ballmer point' and gives us Velious!

Splorf22 11-22-2012 10:32 PM

Also great video Jarnauga.

Metallikus 11-22-2012 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Splorf22 (Post 773251)
What would be awesome IMO is if we had a rotation on 'ordinary' targets but competition on the simultaneous repops (assuming rogean implements them).

What's really crazy imo is how many guilds would have a legitimate claim to a slot in the rotation. For Innoruuk for example I would guess aside from the usual suspects TMO/BDA/FE we'd have Taken/Divinity who can clearly handle it and probably the newer guilds FV/Asgard/FC as well could manage it if they weren't racing TMO. Maybe Europa as well although I don't have a lot of experience. With a little time to prepare I'm even guessing my humble A-team could take down Innoruuk with 10.

For Trakanon/Gorenaire things get harder; I'm guessing Taken/Divinity could still manage it (I heard taken took down isle 6 in sky recently?) but probably not the others, but that's still 5 guilds so 1 trak / 15 days.

TL;DR: we all need to send Nilbog so much booze he hits the 'Ballmer point' and gives us Velious!



When TMO was on one of their suspensions for being (the perpetual god guys of the server), other guilds were given the opportunity to kill these dragons / gods.

I don't think Divinity or Taken or FV or Asguard or FC can kill gorenaire on their own. FE could maybe.
Trakanon, I think Divinity tried it and wiped but I think they could probly get it with practice. I don't know the raid capabilities of the other guilds because they do not show up to raid targets under the current structure where TMO kills the mobs with characters parked all over Norrath within 10 min of spawning.

quido 11-22-2012 11:06 PM

Rotations are dumb - I even thought so when I was in Transcendence and the only reason we got a single raid mob was because of a forced rotation.

Volibear 11-22-2012 11:10 PM

I am going to use a poker analogy here:

Right now TMO has 90% of the chips and wins almost every hand. The other guilds "short stacks" are asking for us to chop the winnings. Now why would TMO split the winnings evenly when they have such a chip advantage? Sorry for the new people to the server but when your the big stack you don't chop the winnings. Now taken has the right idea here. Push all in in small pots when you got the right cards(clearing hate with Inny having a big window). The wrong idea is what BDA/FE are doing. They are going for big pots when they are holding mediocre cards(Severilious).

Tanthallas 11-23-2012 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Volibear (Post 773262)
I am going to use a poker analogy here:

Right now TMO has 90% of the chips and wins almost every hand. The other guilds "short stacks" are asking for us to chop the winnings. Now why would TMO split the winnings evenly when they have such a chip advantage? Sorry for the new people to the server but when your the big stack you don't chop the winnings. Now taken has the right idea here. Push all in in small pots when you got the right cards(clearing hate with Inny having a big window). The wrong idea is what BDA/FE are doing. They are going for big pots when they are holding mediocre cards(Severilious).

Why the fuck is half this server so retarded?

FE shows up for the same mobs at TMO at any time. FE tracks the mobs 24/7. FE does not have over 30 people in most cases to throw at these mobs, nor do most the members have the experience. If there is ever a time that FE has the numbers TMO does, or even proximate, shit will die just as easily. There is literally nothing difficult about raiding on this server but having people who can put in the time in appropriate numbers. There is zero skill in killing the mobs available at the moment with 30 people or more. Period.

Does this help?

Autotune 11-23-2012 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Tanthallas (Post 773368)
Why the fuck is half this server so retarded?

Poopsocking roll offs is making me laugh my ass off lol.

"poopsocking is our best chance at getting raid mobs"

"We should do a roll off on poopsocking so we don't have to invest any time"

I mean, forcing poopsocks to try and force a roll off. Like, best suggestion I've ever heard.

LOL, Pulling Sev compared to a FTE snipe on CT... really.... REALLY.....bwaha. (Why wasn't it considered a pull? Because you can't pull CT to the other side of the zone in 3 seconds, the time in which you said you got DT'd lol)

So, to answer your question... idk, but these people are hilarious.


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