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remen 08-04-2021 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Barlu (Post 3342040)
Another consideration is that some guilds have rules against selling raid gear. It is not supposed to be sold unless you can replace it. For BiS pieces like White Dragon Helm or AoW pants they are pretty much BiS so they have to consider that risk.

Great point this is a huge part of it. In the past some of the top raid guilds allowed droppable items to be sold. Currently, Vanquish does not allow the sale of droppable items won with dkp.

I don't know what Criot's policy is, but it doesn't really matter since they are mostly only killing charity mobs they get from bag limits.

Bondrake 08-04-2021 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Twochain (Post 3341719)
LMAO first of all, as someone who has been camping drums of the beast for a month and a half now, has killed 350+ PH's, and have seen TWO FUCKING named mobs, you're wrong about drums. They should be gd 400k.


My second point kind of plays on what you say though. When Green came out, in the post aftermath world of P99 Blue, population was low, and there wasn't a lot of people farming certain pieces of gear. Such as, Singing Steel Helmet, people were looking to buy things such as that for months on end to no avail. And, as you know how supply and demand works, when there is virtually 0 of an item for sale, people will pay more and more.

I mean shit, when I STARTED trying to buy drums of the beast, Aftermath was still alive. I made my bard and tried to buy the drums somewhere around end of summer 2019. The rest of the year I was trying to buy a pair, offering 80, then 100, then 120, and NOT A SINGLE PERSON had them for sale.

Then there are other items, such as Fungi Tunic. Realistically, because of how OP fungi tunic is, it should be 150-200k each. (It's really best in slot for just about everyone who can wear it) The price ebb and flows between 40-60k anymore. Part of the reason for this, is because the GM's keep fucking with the way the camp behaves (for better or for worse). The King Solo pull has changed no less than 7 times since I started camping it years ago. At the moment, The PH paths back over the ledge every time, meaning holding the camp with a duo is harder (much harder) than it was before. Therefore, since tunics aren't being pumped out every 5 hours, the price is rising (rightfully so)

At the end of the day, Items are worth what people will pay. If you caught me at the right time a few weeks ago, I would have paid 1500 per adamantite band. That's 6x the normal price. Yes, there are certain douchers who artificially inflate the price on the wiki (Loramin/Wiki experts, if you know how to fix this, DM me the walkthrough and i'll start adjusting prices when I see someone obviously trying to price fix) But some items have seen a price hike due to Demand and absolutely no supply. Hardly anybody farms brood/ldogs anymore compared to before, as flawless diamonds and whatnot are worth a fraction of what they used to be. Yet everyone has a bard alt now. Hence Lute of the Howler rising in price (again I think rightfully so, if you want people to find camping lower dogs worth it, and want an item available on the market, you have to make it worth their time. It's not a walk in the park to solo lower dogs)

Lmao look how mad and emotional this person is over a video game meant to be played for fun and enjoyment. Sad.

Toxigen 08-04-2021 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bondrake (Post 3342077)
Lmao look how mad and emotional this person is over a video game meant to be played for fun and enjoyment. Sad.

what?

twochains is quite the opposite of someone mad / emotional over eq haha

guy is a rockstar and stand-up player

Allishia 08-04-2021 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by remen (Post 3342074)
Great point this is a huge part of it. In the past some of the top raid guilds allowed droppable items to be sold. Currently, Vanquish does not allow the sale of droppable items won with dkp.

I don't know what Criot's policy is, but it doesn't really matter since they are mostly only killing charity mobs they get from bag limits.

I sold a few misc items under the radar in aftermath and riot, but it was to buy things for my war, like useful puppet strings etc...:p

Twochain 08-04-2021 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bondrake (Post 3342077)
Lmao look how mad and emotional this person is over a video game meant to be played for fun and enjoyment. Sad.

Lmao yeah i'm not mad.. was just trying to point out that items such as drums should be more than 100k because it's a 1/3 chance to get it off... what HAS to be.. the rarest mob in the game... At probably one of the hardest camps in the game.

I wasn't bitching about the king camp changes either, I haven't really camped that in a few years now. A little burned out of being in that green ass hallway, although it still remains one of my favorite camps out there.

Cowl of Mortality I don't understand at all. Maybe it rose in price after the graphic change? I Will say it feels like more rare of a drop than it was a few years ago, Vanquish has only gotten 4 in the 13 months that we've been raiding, and the average price has been 370 DKP. In aftermath, 1dkp averaged out to about 1k platinum. DKP in Vanquish is a little bit harder to come by, as each dragon kill is 3 instead of 5.. Among other examples. My point being, that even at 300k you would be better off buying it with platinum.

cd288 08-04-2021 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Saylord (Post 3340738)
This all makes a lot of sense of course. The only thing is the platinum on the server. From 2009-2018 it grew, but from 2018-2021 the plat amounts have skyrocketed at a much faster pace. Green came out and split server pops which would make plat growth slow also, but it hasn’t. How is there so much more platinum on the server? Other than guards, are there more sources to really get it? Or have people just really clamped down more and farmed the hell out of it even with half the pop?. Maybe it is because you have a smaller pop and the plat is passed through the population easier and not spread out. It’s just really interesting to me, idk lol =)

You’re allowed to play on both servers at the same time. Playing on green doesn’t prevent you from farming plat on blue.

Scalem 08-05-2021 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Twochain (Post 3341816)
Funnily enough, if Green dumps into Blue as has been the plan since before Green, Blue will be getting a HUGE cache of legacy items on the market. Beads/Manastone/Circlet of Shadow will probably never be as expensive on Blue as they are right now if that's the case. Prenerf fungi stick is probably a little different though... How many even dropped on green?

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Gustoo 08-05-2021 11:18 AM

It would be nice if the team brought over the luclin style casino vendor in order to un-inject plat from the server.

Allishia 08-05-2021 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Gustoo (Post 3342527)
It would be nice if the team brought over the luclin style casino vendor in order to un-inject plat from the server.

Or unnerf the clickys ! :)

strongNpretty 08-05-2021 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Valrok (Post 3341713)
With half of the server population moving to green, supply has went down, therefore prices went up

Your avatar looks like Brandon Biebel... And that's dope.


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