dont worry black knight, we know you dont care about the server rules.

i think removing hybrid penalty would help alot with groups. you know how many solo sks/paladins ive seen on this server since i started? a fucking ton. you know how many groups ive been in that needed a tank? a fucking ton. hybrids get shunned because of penalty and at the same time hybrids would rather solo because their penalty is so horrid.

i honestly think removing the hybrid penalty (at least in groups) as well as adding a group xp bonus will improve server pop. we dont need boxing.

all im saying is the day you allowing boxing, is the day alot of us uninstall for good. i know alot of you dont care and would be happy having the ability to box your item camps. i really think this whole boxing thing is just selfish and not for the community but rather for the few individuals who have a deep sickness for this game.

all in all, relying on players is classic. you cant blame the population on the inability to box.

So I had some down time with my main camped out in TD awaiting dragon loots so I gave Rolfrom a whirl.

Overall I found it pretty entertaining. It's definitely a mix of old (pre kunark levels/spells, mostly items) and new (I noticed shamans get spells every level like it is on live now, instead of having "spell levels").

Melee seems...different. With a 5 damage weapon at level 12 I'm hitting for 18-20 and critting for 40 (warrior). The swing and miss% seems very unclassic - mobs and players alike connect on almost every swing at least at my level.

As for the boxing element, not sure how I feel quite yet. It's certainly nice to be able to run my barbarian shm/war combo to eliminate down time, but maybe the biggest benefit is the biggest drawback. I just felt no need to group up with the exp rate already high. I also had a very funny PVP encounter with another 2-boxer who was playing an erudite ench/wiz near blackburrow tunnel...eventually he started zone hopping and I was able to hold down both sides of the zoneline on my own. Shaman melee skills netted me my first YT. :P

I also ran into devnoob in Halas putting in a TL for a GM event for the neutral team. I've heard some bad things said about him but he seemed like a cool guy. Unfortunately I got my shaman ported over to Faydwer for a GM event and soulbound in butcher...but my warrior was left behind. I could likely reroll a new character and level up in less time it takes to reunite them, lol. Or just delevel myself to 10 and take the TL.

The level caps are kinda cool too. It makes it easy to play casually and try out a lot of different combos. In the end though I can't really see myself playing here "full time". More of a break from the grind on R99.

kergan, roflzek exp is like 1000x

you cant use that as your reference for saying boxing removes need for grouping

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red99 wants to remove insane solo exp bonus? cool, give us a group bonus and allow boxing, now theres incentive to group...

now theres incentive to play, and play a class you want to play...

If I could 2 box on R99 I wouldn't feel the need to group either, I'd just do the same thing and run a war/shm combo. If they forced the issue by making it significantly faster to run a full group because of a large bonus I'd go that route. Part of the reason soloing/duoing is more effective though is you don't need nearly the mobs to make it efficient. You can find some out of the way place with a couple spawns on a short timer that are easy for their level and grind.

Don't get me wrong though, I'm all for big group bonuses. The social part of the game is what makes it last ultimately. Just not completely sold on the 2 box idea...I think on the surface it sounds great but once it goes in you pretty much have the 2 box all the time to min max. I kinda like the simplicity now.

where would you solo that war/shaman combo?

CoM? Seb bugs? The exp would probably be even slower considering the amount of PvP you would be dealing with.

Groups would still be the superior choice. Having to log off your shaman box everytime someone zones into your zone in order to be ready to PvP with your Warrior or vice-versa will get old real fast.

On the flip side, if it's during off hours and theres 20 people online, you have this opportunity to continue to make gains, and not be hindered by the lack of people.

You're right, it is a social game, that's why your in a guild. It takes more than 1 person boxing a support class to do anything worth while here. Enabling boxing doesn't all of a sudden change the entire dynamic of the game.

The argument that anyone would be FORCED to 2-box is silly. Every experience I have with boxing theres those who do it, and theres those that don't. There is really no difference than what we have now. Some people have multiple support classes that they are able to log in and out of to help do things in different zones, and there are some people that have one main and zero alts.

When you can/can't two box because of PVP would be no different then solo'ing now. What you would see though is plenty of boxed OOR bards with wizards and shit, or OOR clerics, etc.

and?

Rolfzek the only server that you can make a gnome shaman with ice comet love custom eq.

Sorry, just don't think every wizard gank combo rolling around with OOR bard speed and cleric heals sounds like a good time.