I pretty much remember about the only class that could do it in the beginning were Shamans.

But something a lot of people forget is when the original game came out nobody knew crap about nothing naturally. Velious, when I look back at it, came out pretty quick from the start of the whole thing.

So the point I am getting at I guess is many people had no clue how to really play the class they had. Few people knew all the tricks we know now, or tactics, or what ever. So I think more classes will be pretty good at soloing high end stuff now with all the knowledge we have from years of playing.

But I seem to remember that a lot of the high end mobs summoned and that is pretty much a no go for a caster class. So that is why I said a Ogre Shaman toe to toe would probably be best because you WILL be toe to toe with a lot of top mobs like it or not. :eek::eek:

But yes Tec you are right, I didn't really READ the BEST class only thing by the OP. :o

My Shaman is a Female Barbarian. So I am not too sure how she is going to do compared to a Ogre shaman. Man I would hate to re-roll one lol. But I regret it now looking forward. Because the stun thingy IS a big deal toe to toe. :p

Summoning is no big deal once you get used to it. Shamans are tough so they can tank the stuff they're fighting, and enchanters and necros use pets to take hits. When charm breaks you get summoned into the fray, but if you've planned ahead and/or you're quick, even that isn't a big deal.

http://s1.postimg.org/cfr8v3m1b/EQ001113.png

That's me killing a Velious named in Velk's on beta. It's a lower level dude (53 maybe, something like that), but he still hits for ~200, and my pet was fully hasted and weaponized (so he could potentially quad for 180s every 1-1.5 seconds or so). Charm had broken just before I took this screenshot, which meant I got summoned into the melee, but I was paying close attention waiting for that so I fired off a fast-casting stun and then AE mezzed before these mobs even had time to get through all of bedlam and rune 5.

That gets hard with Velious mobs when they are high-enough level that they're immune to stuns and mezzes, although proper use of root on enemy and pet alike lets me just run out of melee range quickly and boltrans the pet before I get summoned again. Once something is magic resistant enough that you can't keep it rooted at all, a chanter can STILL handle a charm break with an instant recharm clicky (wand of allure, puppet strings) and mem blurs and/or proccing weapons on the pet... or even just stunning the pet and eating a round of melee from the slowed named while you boltrans the pet; these are the methods necessary to solo kunark stuff like cliff golem, dartain the lost, emperor chottal, etc. But then it's kind of a game of attrition, because you guaranteed are going to get hit and if that happens a couple of times over the course of a fight (these fights take a few minutes, even Kunark 51+ nameds don't die in 30 seconds like you were talking about, web)... then you're in trouble.

It's easy to die too though. Those are ways to survive, but if your pet resists a stun or if you have bad luck with channeling or if you aren't VERY on top of what is going on... you're toast in a hurry. Not sure how fighting nameds that rampage will work out solo... lol :)

Is the stun thing really that big for you when a slowed mob bashes or kicks every 32 seconds? Having soloed in the most difficult places a shaman can solo Kunark (seb emp, HS south, deep Chardok), I never once died to a mob bash or even thought that I had wished I had an ogre. Are shamans going to be soloing a lot of unslowable mobs in Velious?

It's a big deal in making things easier, but plenty of non-ogre shamans handled Lodizal or WW dragons.

Depending on your /played, it might be worth considering, but I wouldn't wanna reroll if your shaman is already 34+ and in the clear solo-wise.

This.

The benefit of Stun Immunity is vastly overstated.

"Velious" and "Soloing" is setting yourself up for failure.


All of the good shit. **All** of the good shit, you need at least 1 friend for, except for what people are already shouting at the top of their lungs - Lodizal, some Dragons, some of the camps in Velks.

As for stun immunity, who gives a shit. The mob is slowed, you're fucking fine. If you end up dying because of a bash when you're a shaman, you didn't die because of the bash - you died because you didn't set yourself up for success.