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Potus 09-06-2014 12:28 AM

Here's what's different:

Pets are worse here.
DoTs are worse here.
Every other class (except possibly Shaman?) are better.

As soon as I can get potions to cure backstab, flying kick, and 90% of all melee damage then Necros will be balanced.

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Originally Posted by HippoNipple (Post 1605698)
Even if necros are the same here as they are on live they are gimped by not being stronger than on live. Melees and nuke classes are stronger on this server than they should be.

Also this. It's ridiculous that melees have insane hit ratios and doing non-classic damage with 2handers and Wizards going hog wild on non-lures.

Not Salem 09-06-2014 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Potus
As soon as I can get potions to cure backstab, flying kick, and 90% of all melee damage then Necros will be balanced.

you have a dozen spells to chose from that do that, and potions which are usable by every class in the game

Swyft 09-06-2014 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Rystar (Post 1605645)
Also you can resist taps which on live just never happened.

No it actually could happen on Live I only saw it twice but it was possible.

If I started here when you could bind in pot-room I would actually be playing a Necro, portability the only reason I play a wiz here.

Drakaris 09-06-2014 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Not Salem (Post 1605860)
you have a dozen spells to chose from that do that, and potions which are usable by every class in the game

Oooooh changed your stance because I owned the snot out of Salem? Gotta love those Zoneline huggers, u know?

Problems with Necros:
1) Pet's do not do the damage they are supposed to and do not hit for max damage as frequently as they are supposed to.

2) Magic line of spells does not have dispell counters, which they did on classic, you could not click a pumice and remove winged death first try for example. You can spend 4 seconds casting a splurt, followed by another 4 seconds for pyrocuror only to see both spells get pelled off in 2 seconds, leaving you with 640 mana deficit and taking melee damage in the process of casting those spells.

3) Melee max damage relatively correct compared to weapons, but hit/miss rate does not match classic, melee hit way too often and hit for max damage way too often, THIS IS WHAT THE PETS SHOULD BE DOING!.

4) Resists.... Necro spells were very hard to resist, I distinctly remembering the heat line of spells and heart line of spells rarely getting resisted, even when low level NPCs cast them. Non-lure nukes on the otherhand were resisted easily and required a resist debuff before being cast.

georgie 09-06-2014 07:49 AM

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Zalaerian 09-06-2014 09:52 AM

If your using splurt in pvp you deserve to get wrecked

Drakaris 09-06-2014 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Zalaerian (Post 1606061)
If your using splurt in pvp you deserve to get wrecked

In early 50s PvP it's the only good dot other than ebolt? Either way, 1 pell gets both vexing moridinia and pyro.

Potus 09-06-2014 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Not Salem (Post 1605860)
you have a dozen spells to chose from that do that, and potions which are usable by every class in the game

Please list the spells that completely negate your harm touch. I'm all fucking ears. Will be F5'ing this thread every minute.

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Originally Posted by Zalaerian (Post 1606061)
If your using splurt in pvp you deserve to get wrecked

Teach me how to pvp at level 51. I guess I am doing it wrong. I should be using Ignite Blood, which hits for 30 dmg every 6 seconds? How about a sweet 218 damage lifetap that takes 6.1 seconds to cast?

When Kunark launched, Splurt was considered overpowered and people wanted it nerfed, mainly because it would outright kill a level 45ish caster.

Colgate 09-06-2014 04:25 PM

you will never be satisfied with any answer

stop crying idiot, necros aren't that bad

Slathar 09-06-2014 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Zalaerian (Post 1606061)
If your using splurt in pvp you deserve to get wrecked

Normally I'd agree. However, splurt is good right now for two specific reasons I won't type out.


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