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Cecily 06-18-2015 10:49 PM

That's mainly because the atk value displayed in game reflects STR based (melee) atk. There's no display for ranged atk values. Really, it's just more is better. Is it worth full gearing for dex? Probably not, but dex is a great ranger stat that I wish I had more of.

Tremonte 06-19-2015 12:27 PM

The way it worked on Live, arrow damage is additive to bow damage, divided by delay for ratio, quiver haste stacks with spell/worn haste, and double damage is calculated at the time the shot is fired, pending the NPC no movement, no root check passes. Having an odd number for double damage isn't a bug. It's due to decimal rounding. If you did 222.7 damage, it displays as 223, etc.

Pre-AA's, archery is lackluster and mostly a utility for pulling and the occasional solo expedition. Trueshot is great on a burn, but you want to ignore ratio, and go for the highest base damage bow when you use it.

Sadly, I don't think we will see rangers come to their full potential with a bow on this server without Endless Quiver and Archery Mastery.

Ciroco 06-19-2015 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tremonte (Post 1944824)
Having an odd number for double damage isn't a bug. It's due to decimal rounding. If you did 222.7 damage, it displays as 223, etc.

Do you have any proof of this? I can't find a single example from live, and I am almost positive that it was not possible.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tremonte (Post 1944824)
Trueshot is great on a burn, but you want to ignore ratio, and go for the highest base damage bow when you use it.

...why?

eqgmrdbz 06-19-2015 02:52 PM

Quote:

Haste affects bow delay the same way it effects melee.

But archery uses one more kind of haste, stacking with the others : quiver haste (QH). It follows the same rules than all the other kinds of haste : only the best QH is used if more than one apply. To have a QH, you just need to have a Weight Reducing quiver in your inventory.
I always thought worn haste affected bows, not sure what Cecily means by it doesn't. That's a statement from the wiki, bows are affected just like regular melee, so having worn haste, spell haste, and quiver is the best scenario.

Cecily 06-19-2015 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eqgmrdbz (Post 1945036)
I always thought worn haste affected bows, not sure what Cecily means by it doesn't.

I mean it doesn't.

Cecily 06-19-2015 03:48 PM

Windstriker w/ 40% worn haste (Swiftwind)
[Fri Jun 19 15:17:43 2015] You hit a bat for 233 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 19 15:17:49 2015] You hit a giant wasp drone for 203 points of damage.
6 second delay

Windstriker w/o worn haste
[Fri Jun 19 15:21:06 2015] You hit a giant wasp drone for 107 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 19 15:21:12 2015] You hit a bat for 59 points of damage.
6 second delay

Windstriker w/ 50% spell haste (Dark Cloak of the Sky)
[Fri Jun 19 15:43:33 2015] You hit orc legionnaire for 107 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 19 15:43:37 2015] You hit orc legionnaire for 83 points of damage.
4 second delay

Ennewi 06-19-2015 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cecily (Post 1945115)
Windstriker w/ 40% worn haste (Swiftwind)
[Fri Jun 19 15:17:43 2015] You hit a bat for 233 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 19 15:17:49 2015] You hit a giant wasp drone for 203 points of damage.
6 second delay

Windstriker w/o worn haste
[Fri Jun 19 15:21:06 2015] You hit a giant wasp drone for 107 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 19 15:21:12 2015] You hit a bat for 59 points of damage.
6 second delay

Windstriker w/ 50% spell haste (Dark Cloak of the Sky)
[Fri Jun 19 15:43:33 2015] You hit orc legionnaire for 107 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 19 15:43:37 2015] You hit orc legionnaire for 83 points of damage.
4 second delay

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Ciroco 06-19-2015 04:35 PM

That's a massive bug, no?

Cecily 06-19-2015 04:36 PM

Hmm. I'm not sure now tbh. Consensus on the alla fleeting quiver page seems to be that haste items do work for bows.
Yeah that might be worth a bug report.

Ennewi 06-19-2015 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cecily (Post 1945200)
I'm not fluent in MRW, come on use your words like a normal person.

http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/...psamm1jq8z.jpg


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