Oh yeah, I totally forgot about X-Com. Wow, I love that game.

It is quite nasty though. Even on easy difficulties, you're going to lose units (or maybe your whole team) on your first few missions unless you save every turn (maybe multiple times per turn) and aren't afraid to load up a save until you get everything just right.

Want to add Civilization 5 to this thread. You need a relatively beefy comp to run it....and while it's not really an RPG, it's easily the best/deepest strategy game I've played.

The sheer number of options available are quite literally intimidating at first....yet the UI is fantastic. Every option is just TWO clicks away.

Give it a go if you have a comp that can run it. Even if you've never played or played and disliked previous Civ games, this one will likely change your mind.

Not strictly strategy, but if you like the above types of games and don't mind a challenge : XCOM UFO Defence was maybe the best gaming experience I've ever had.

edit : Damn, mentioned! Bad post... but good game.

That's cheating bro. If you are careful and smart about who you use as cannon fodder and build up your units you can win with minimal saving. That said, you have to play this game with a mindset that its ok to lose. You are fighting spaceship-flying aliens after all.

Crystal Defenders for my phone, yo.

Deus Ex takes the cake on all games and genres.

The thing is even on easy any random alien with the weakest energy weapon can headshot your entire squad one after another from the far opposite side of the map pretty much any time it wants.

It's a great game but you're going to end up with some bruises from smashing your head into your desk.

And that is just Enemy Unknown. Terror from the Deep is even more ruthless.

Off topic : Civ 5 is great, BUT Civ 2 is the definitive strategy game. Before they brought in all this culture bullshit and snazzy graphics. That game was just flat out brilliance. Graphics weren't over elaborate, but decent enough. Mechanics of the game were flawless... loved it. Every civ since civ 2 has been slightly disappointing, but still a good game in their own right. Turn based strategies are a personal favourite of mine.

I liked the concept of final fantasy tactics, but the storyline was a bit weak. So i never really gave it much time.

Really? I thought it was quite complex.

Disgaea and La Pucella come from Nippon Ichi. I do recommend you check out their other games, Makai Kingdom, Atelier Iris, ...

There's also Valkyrie Profile (DS), but it's rather high difficulty o_O

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