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azeth 10-05-2017 07:39 PM

ITT people are mad at roll-winners selling rights, thinking it will disrupt crowd-sourcing of the force needed to kill the mob.

perhaps show up with the needed force to make the kill? then what's it matter if Aikons sells it? If you won... then you'd successfully kill and loot. And if he won... you wouldn't help.

Like was stated previously, rolling prevents the click/petition fest. It's not for any other purpose.

ZiggyTheMuss 10-05-2017 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by James Dean (Post 2589644)
try red

scout up no rolls needed

But then that means that you would be playing on red which also means you fail at life.

Nathaniel 10-06-2017 03:09 AM

If you are wearing Silver Bracelet of Speed and whatever other bracer from ToV that is far better than Scout bracer, you should not be going to Scout and roll. This only screws over the players there that are trying to get an upgrade, now that we finally have a nice thing going at Scout. The best thing would be if everybody agrees that Scout is you win roll - you hand in tools - you loot disc. This would stop people from bringing extra guildies in to roll just to increase win chance, selling loot rights and other forms of abusing it like we saw yesterday.

aaezil 10-06-2017 03:13 AM

Selling winning roll - 5k get at me

Fragged 10-06-2017 04:31 AM

Hey guys.

I didn't mean to step on anyones toes. I think I have helped more than 30 people or so get their scout items, never once sold it. This time around I chose to roll for the loot. I put in the same amount of effort as everyone else there and was lucky enough to win the loot rights.

I guess it comes down to this. If you start excluding people with rules they don't agree to, they will just chose not to roll and then you are back to the clickfest.

That being said, if anyone ever needs a hand with the captain or anything else don't hesitate to ask me for help.

Ay_1017 10-06-2017 04:52 AM

AM does not treat player agreement as a thing.
They broke the Ring War agreement and sniped it.
Now they won the roll and passed the loot right.

William_Munny15 10-06-2017 04:54 AM

Guess you can inspect the winner and see if they have better and not help those people who obviously have better / want to sell it? But even then it's easy to bag a bracer or whatever before the roll. Just how things are, greedy people will look at scout as easy money unfortunately. Scout Charisa serving up the devil's pie on p99 since 2015!

raato 10-06-2017 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Swish (Post 2590000)
He's now a rulebreaker and wasn't much of a monk in his Europa days. There's your alternative perspective.

This is fake news tho. As former RL of Europa/CSG I have no bad words to say about him during his time in either Europa or AM.

Althought I think its a douche move to pass the roll win to some friend/guildy. And by doing so you'll soon have 100ppl at scout rolling for a "friend".

Nathaniel 10-06-2017 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Fragged (Post 2590029)
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I guess it comes down to this. If you start excluding people with rules they don't agree to, they will just chose not to roll and then you are back to the clickfest.
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So what you're saying is that if you will not be allowed to come and roll for your friends/guildies, you will just screw the roll altogether and hand in anyways? Nice.

Nixtar 10-06-2017 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Fragged (Post 2590029)
I guess it comes down to this. If you start excluding people with rules they don't agree to, they will just chose not to roll and then you are back to the clickfest.

Ah, the tried and true method of "if I don't get it my way, I'll take the ball home"-approach. Well, AM did it with the Ring War so I guess it is just business as usual for you guys.

The good news is you do not really need this quest since this server is already done. No more content, no secrets, just an increasingly petty and bitter end game where, I assume, the end game guilds are so bored they need the drama to keep things interesting.


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