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Devil 03-31-2011 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dredge (Post 251318)
I vote for a server re-start.

just kidding,

but how lame,

this is a video game, make a toon, do quests "everquest", make friends, group, raid, have fun.

Assholes racing to the end, cheating, overcharging, never helping, really start to ruin the fun, and I still don't understand how accumulating millions in plat is more enjoyable to them then the above mentioned.

At lv 35 my Shaman never has any plat, I have all quested gear for the most part, when I hit splitpaw I make sure to go to town and pass out gear to newbies. The other day I got a port and gave the guy a 15pp tip and felt like an ass, but I only had 30pp, I see now how some people seem to have a neverending amount of plat to throw around :(

Now I have started over again as an Iksar in Kunark and people are trying to sell the same splitpaw gloves that I used to pass out for free but charge 150pp for them.
I'm not bitching, I'm just pointing out what I have noticed.

I guess I could be called an hypocrite because my main is for sale and I figured it might be fun to sort of twink a Shadow Knight for once, but obviously a stupid rare dagger with mediocre stats from opening day is worth 10 times my Shaman that took me months and months to level, but what ever, I'll keep playing with what ever gear I find because that is still fun.

It's still a fun game, regardless.

To some though, on a "legitmate" server it's more fun to use illegitimate means to get ahead.

Yeah it's fun to level a character from the start, naked, we all did.

But it's more fun to level a char with capped stats and dragon loots. Or am I wrong?

guineapig 03-31-2011 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Salty (Post 251315)
edit that post to freedom big guinea. Blues gonna ack even on the forum

I have no idea what this means... :confused:

Psionide 03-31-2011 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dredge (Post 251318)



Assholes racing to the end.....At lv 35 my Shaman that took me months and months to level....


Uthgaard 03-31-2011 03:39 PM

This and similar exploits (silver ruby veil) weren't even that bad, compared to some of the others I've seen. Silver ruby veil added about 1 million plat to the economy in the 6 months or so it was botted. The really bad ones were several million/billion plat+ in minutes.

After you've dealt with this stuff for a while, you see the same things, over and over, there are patterns in the people and circles you deal with. One truism I've found is that if someone disrespects the server in one way, they're not going to respect it in another.

What I mean by that, is the people you see raging out on the devs, are usually running mq2, 2boxing, scamming, RMTing and all that. Someone doing one is inevitably doing another. You all might think I out people posting from troll accounts for the lulz, and while that's partially correct, it's also because I'm probably going to bust up some shady shit in the process.

But yeah, the majority of all of the excess plat floating around (or the expensive items they purchased to hide it) are sitting on accounts that were banned for one reason or another. Not perfect, but it all averages out fairly well.

Devil 03-31-2011 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Uthgaard (Post 251372)
This and similar exploits (silver ruby veil) weren't even that bad, compared to some of the others I've seen. Silver ruby veil added about 1 million plat to the economy in the 6 months or so it was botted. The really bad ones were several million/billion plat+ in minutes.

After you've dealt with this stuff for a while, you see the same things, over and over, there are patterns in the people and circles you deal with. One truism I've found is that if someone disrespects the server in one way, they're not going to respect it in another.

What I mean by that, is the people you see raging out on the devs, are usually running mq2, 2boxing, scamming, RMTing and all that. Someone doing one is inevitably doing another. You all might think I out people posting from troll accounts for the lulz, and while that's partially correct, it's also because I'm probably going to bust up some shady shit in the process.

But yeah, the majority of all of the excess plat floating around (or the expensive items they purchased to hide it) are sitting on accounts that were banned for one reason or another. Not perfect, but it all averages out fairly well.

Well I'm glad you weighed in. I knew there were a few out there, and the more obvious ones got banned. Especially when you look at a guy whos got a million + plat banked it's pretty obvious especially back then when the server was only up for 6 months that he didn't make it from selling sets of Bronze armor.

It is funny however to see that even though it made an impact on the way things are today, it's really not a huge gamebreaking deal.

saucer 03-31-2011 04:33 PM

I was always pretty suspicious of you, Jeb, because of the types of items you bought, how quickly you resold them, how it seemed that you often took a significant loss on the sale and perhaps most of all, because you didn't have a higher level main who could've pulled it off.
As a GC member back in the day, I always liked you, but it makes me sad to hear of how rampant this shit was.

Devil 03-31-2011 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by saucer (Post 251425)
I was always pretty suspicious of you, Jeb, because of the types of items you bought, how quickly you resold them, how it seemed that you often took a significant loss on the sale and perhaps most of all, because you didn't have a higher level main who could've pulled it off.
As a GC member back in the day, I always liked you, but it makes me sad to hear of how rampant this shit was.

I gave so many things away to lower level players, guild mates, and friends, that it's not funny. And yes I agree I was, and still am, very negotiable on prices. I've never been stingy with players.

dredge 03-31-2011 05:03 PM

what does this even mean?
Are you trying to say something?

DoucLangur 03-31-2011 05:57 PM

Thanks for the heads-up. I have been wondering why many prices are so way out of line, had the impression there was way more cash in the economy than there should be.

It's kind of reassuring to know that the f*cktards hacked it into the game - doesn't make me feel so left out on being poor as fuck. :)

Slozem

Alawen Everywhere 03-31-2011 06:08 PM

I like to farm stuff in the 300-800pp range because I can always find demand for something that few if any are bringing to market. One example of this is the Incandescent Mask--I'm probably responsible for most of them on the server.

As a result, I spend some time in the tunnel. I noticed a definite drop in the availability of platinum a few months back when Uthgaard started chasing this stuff down. I definitely believe that the availability of excess platinum has been at least reduced.


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