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Snaggles 06-28-2025 10:39 PM

It’s Daybreak’s IP, they can grant whatever access they want and restrict whatever access they want. Whether it’s about another company profiting or even just due to concern for damages.

P99 got a formal agreement rather than assuming it would be fine. Often in life it’s better to ask for forgiveness than permission, not so much with potential IP infringement.

Goregasmic 06-28-2025 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cd288 (Post 3744369)
But in any case, beyond staff statements, it would also make sense. Daybreak runs progression servers that go through the full timeline. They would grant permission to P99 under a set of circumstances which would include a limitation on how far into the timeline P99's server could go.

Not impossible but TLPs are very different beasts IIRC they don't strive to be classic at all and a bunch of them have special rulesets. Not sure how much playerbase overlap there is. As long as p99 remains mostly true to classic they might have more liberty as daybreak doesn't seem to want to go down that path.

cd288 06-30-2025 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Goregasmic (Post 3744810)
Not impossible but TLPs are very different beasts IIRC they don't strive to be classic at all and a bunch of them have special rulesets. Not sure how much playerbase overlap there is. As long as p99 remains mostly true to classic they might have more liberty as daybreak doesn't seem to want to go down that path.

Yeah...Daybreak seems to view things not through a lens of mechanics and rulesets but simply "what expansions does this server cover". Honestly, from a legal perspective that's probably the most advantageous way for them to look at things as well. Starting to delve into mechanics and rulesets just opens them up to arguments for why people can use their IP without their permission (not good arguments...but arguments nonetheless).

Elizondo 06-30-2025 10:38 PM

Project 1999 is not technically a Private Server

It's a Museum

We're just allowed to play here. Server will be up if there are any players or not.

Infectious 07-02-2025 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Elizondo (Post 3745161)
Project 1999 is not technically a Private Server

It's a Museum

We're just allowed to play here. Server will be up if there are any players or not.

Technically its exactly the definition of a private server. What the hell are you talking about lol

WarpathEQ 07-02-2025 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Infectious (Post 3745406)
Technically its exactly the definition of a private server. What the hell are you talking about lol

Theoretically its like a virtual private/public partnership

F0rmsh1fter 07-04-2025 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Fhergul (Post 3742669)
I'm sure that somewhere in the mass of posts this question has been asked before but I can't seem to find it.

Why isn't the agreement with Daybreak Games that allowed P99 to exist public? I for one would like to know what those are so I can see exactly how far P99 can go. Is it hard locked at Velious or is that just something that has grown from the rumors generated from the lack of the agreement being made public? Just curious about some things.

I can tell you exactly why but it involves very old server lore and well both get banned if I say it here

cd288 07-07-2025 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Fhergul (Post 3742669)
Why isn't the agreement with Daybreak Games that allowed P99 to exist public? I for one would like to know what those are so I can see exactly how far P99 can go. Is it hard locked at Velious or is that just something that has grown from the rumors generated from the lack of the agreement being made public? Just curious about some things.

Probably because Daybreak wants to reserve the ability to negotiate what terms it wants with other counterparties if Daybreak ever decided to give someone else a legal agreement like P99 has. They don't want them to go "well you let P99 do X, Y, and Z"

Coridan 07-19-2025 07:43 PM

My ideal custom content would be Odus getting filled out and Kerra becoming playable (not Vah Shir, actually make some face options for the Kerra models and some armor textures for them)


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