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Homesteaded 05-05-2022 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by robayon (Post 3455895)
Well pardon me if I believe in the American people more than you you do. I said these problems aren't uniquely American. But maybe I think America's unique position in recent history gives us the ability to essentially save the world and create the Harmonium, but instead, we are doing explicitly the reverse of that.

Hypocrisy. Hates America but expects it to "save the world"

Jibartik 05-05-2022 01:25 PM

How can you solve poverty when the best solution to it you can come up with is aborting the majority of them?

smh

starkind 05-05-2022 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist (Post 3455901)
Oh I do believe in the American people. I am not sure why you think I don't.

I just don't believe in criticizing America for something as silly as "they couldn't end war and poverty single-handedly".

I am simply saying you need to be careful when trying to approach a problem like "solving all poverty". Nobody has ever done it, and generally speaking trying to do it makes things worse.

Lets solve abortion first, which is much easier, and will set a good example for the rest of the world too!

You're an idiot if you think outlawing abortion and devoting all your focus on it will save any life or stop any murderer.

DeathsSilkyMist 05-05-2022 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by starkind (Post 3455905)
You're an idiot if you think outlawing abortion and devoting all your focus on it will save any life or stop any murderer.

What? Nothing you said here makes any sense.

starkind 05-05-2022 01:27 PM

That's like saying let's make murder illegal. Still plenty of murder. Even more probably because now the wrong people are being murderered because you gotta stand around on your cellphone recording and not defend yourself until the police arrive.

Good job assholes.

starkind 05-05-2022 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist (Post 3455906)
What? Nothing you said here makes any sense.

That is because you worship Satan.

That's the TLDR.

starkind 05-05-2022 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jibartik (Post 3455904)
How can you solve poverty when the best solution to it you can come up with is aborting the majority of them?

smh

That's a tru statement 100% agreed. Best argument for b&s i seen.

It won't be enough tho. Not in the face of the tyranny we all submitted to.

DeathsSilkyMist 05-05-2022 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by starkind (Post 3455907)
That's like saying let's make murder illegal. Still plenty of murder. Even more probably because now the wrong people are being murderered because you gotta stand around on your cellphone recording and not defend yourself until the police arrive.

Good job assholes.

We make murder illegal because even though we know it won't stop it, we all agree it's bad. The point is to punish people who do it. This is a terrible analogy.

Making abortion illegal won't stop abortions. Everybody knows this. But it will vastly reduce the amount of people doing it now because of convenience. If abortion went as the leftists originally pitched ("safe, rare, and legal"), you wouldn't see doctors doing post-birth abortions. Obviously it has been pushed way too far.

starkind 05-05-2022 01:32 PM

Naw. I disagree.

robayon 05-05-2022 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist (Post 3455901)
I am simply saying you need to be careful when trying to approach a problem like "solving all poverty". Nobody has ever done it, and generally speaking trying to do so makes things worse. I don't want America to collapse simply because we reached too far. Remember the story of Icarus.

Lets solve abortion first, which is much easier, and will set a good example for the rest of the world too!

I think you need to be careful when trying to approach a problem like "solve all abortion". Unless you're also willing to consider things like socialized healthcare, UBI, or the prison-industrial complex. Maybe you are. Great. I don't even believe in the idea of a federal government, but as long as it exists we should use it as the tool it can be.

I just don't think outlawing abortion will ever solve the "problem". It's way more complicated than just "dont kill babies". It's going to be a conveyor build that feeds the prison-industrial complex, at least if you can speak Republican as fluently as I can.


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