| TheDuck | 
			04-20-2016 06:56 AM | 
		 
		 
		 
		
		
		i hate to be the one that has to put you in your place colgate, but the reason why empire killed everything week 1 was because you guys did actually have 100-120 the first week-two weeks of raiding. then once everyone realized how lame velious would be raiding you guys leveled off at about 80-85-90.  
 
there are also a ton of mitigating factors here aswell, while empire had a very strong leadership and clear goals when they started, tempest didn't. Tempest didn't even know they where going to be the top guild till the day empire disbanded.  
 
The only way i can explain Tempest is that it was a guild that had aspirations of PVPing against empire to overnight being the top PVE guild on red99 with no planning no forethought. 
 
non biased opinion, the leaders of tempest have done a great job so far stopping on a dime and re-tune-ing and while keeping the core pvp members from Raging, simultaneously ushering the Blue players from there garden of < Empire > into < Tempest > 
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