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Tecmos Deception 01-26-2020 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Keebz (Post 3074806)
Green had much higher valuation on everything

That's not correct.

Fawqueue 01-26-2020 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Keebz (Post 3074806)
No one has mentioned the different item valuations across teal / green that are now visible because of the merge. On teal it wasn't uncommon to see Mith 2h for 8-10k (a fair price imho). Green had much higher valuation on everything, probably because of more poopsockers and therefore more plat. Now that the worlds have collided, it makes sense to see these disparities.

This can be explored even further. When the servers were split, it didn't modify the drop rate or availability. So just as many axes were dropping as now, but to enter a market of 700ish players. Of those 700, only a fraction would want the axe, so the prices would naturally go down over time, since a constant rate of axes would be filling a diminishing number of interested parties. The merge doubled the population (and therefore doubled the number of players who would purchase), but kept the rate of axe drops at the same constant it was before. So with the combined demand of both servers we saw an instant increase in price, and now we'll have to wait until enough of the demand has been filled that sellers feel compelled to drop their price to cater to less and less interest.

Zelbor 01-26-2020 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Keebz (Post 3074806)
No one has mentioned the different item valuations across teal / green that are now visible because of the merge. On teal it wasn't uncommon to see Mith 2h for 8-10k (a fair price imho). Green had much higher valuation on everything, probably because of more poopsockers and therefore more plat. Now that the worlds have collided, it makes sense to see these disparities.

This doesn't quite match my experience (as a Teal player) pre- and post-merge. Teal tradeskill items (JC, in particular) were usually sold cheaper. Low- to medium-price items, really anything less than around the 4-5k mark, were generally more expensive on Teal. High-end pieces like GEBs, FBSS, and especially Mithril 2Her, are suddenly significantly more expensive post-merge. I don't have a clue why Mithril 2Her is preposterously overvalued now, but I also question whether it's actually selling for 20k+ or if that's just what people are asking. There are also a few other shifts in the economy, like the fact that Rubicite pieces are now sold far more often than I ever saw on Teal, where the norm was more that people would trade their extra pieces to fill in the gaps in their own sets. My suspicion is that this change isn't a Green vs. Teal thing but rather that the server reached a certain tipping point in its age/development that led to Rubicite coming up for sale.

DMN 01-26-2020 07:29 PM

Miths hold value even into kunark/velious for pet haste items. Necro's right now should get them for sure, to haste their pets since they have jack shit for haste otherwise. Enchanters can get a mith and then just use aug and they get the benefits of having a pet hasted to swift like wind speed levels.

Swift = ~1000 mana per hour to keep up
Aug = ~180


Also besides saving a ton of mana, some nice for QoL improvements as it has the same duration as half hour buffs so easy to know when to refresh it. less stuff to remember, less swapping in spells. has about half the cast time, too, so less risk of getting a beak made cast. All very nice for chanter.

Siege 01-26-2020 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sycopata666 (Post 3074550)
Its simply, there are not enough cash to buy all uber items, some one have the plat for sure, but the mass community dont have 20kp to buy all items are drop every day and people expect sale for 20k or more, specialy the ones what are becoming trash in khunark, just main tank of raid guilds need being full geared, and this are just for weapons, why armor are from planar equipment.

This mean uber expensive items are for twink alters, and so much twink people is waiting iksars.

Those items aren't being purchased by people who play the game. They're being speculated on and hoarded by a cartel of tunnel fatcats. They're the P99 equivalent of gold bricks.

Baler 01-27-2020 01:26 AM

Project 1999 economy doesn't work like other games. It's hugely based on perception of price and value. When these don't equally translate to the hard in game numbers.

Swish 01-27-2020 05:50 AM

If you don't like it... either farm it yourself or save the plat and pay the fat cats their money.

GinnasP99 01-27-2020 10:44 AM

Glittering gold, trinkets and baubles. Paid for in blood.

cd288 01-27-2020 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Kanuvan (Post 3074551)
the prices are kinda stupid tbh, why do people want 20k plat this early in the game? most players are making maybe 100 plat a day selling FS

like people have said the high end items are just being traded between the poopsockers and are not realistic to obtain for most people, whill the medium and low end items like impskin gloves/gator legs are going for very reasonable prices

so no, the economy is fine, its just those very few highly sought after items are being circulated mostly between the people that play EQ1 and only EQ1

100 plat per day? That's pocket change for many classes my dude. There are people out there making thousands per day easily.

Wallicker 01-27-2020 11:02 AM

yea I mean there are TONS of places you can make 100pp an hr in classic and others where you can make significantly more.


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