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Reiker 11-03-2009 12:39 AM

Those people who never group and only duo with their own boxed toons aren't going to magically change their playstyle completely, roll warriors and group every minute of their life. They're just going to roll magicians. Don't fool yourself into thinking that taking away boxing is going to somehow force people into playing the game the way you want them to and miraculously strengthen the community.

karsten 11-03-2009 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Reiker (Post 2297)
Those people who never group and only duo with their own boxed toons aren't going to magically change their playstyle completely, roll warriors and group every minute of their life. They're just going to roll magicians. Don't fool yourself into thinking that taking away boxing is going to somehow force people into playing the game the way you want them to and miraculously strengthen the community.

this

Keebs 11-03-2009 07:51 AM

I dunno, I play late nights usually lvling solo or trying to find a person online my lvl is rpetty tough sure do wish times like this allowed to box , also apparent druid ports and such, yea peak 300 how much of the population is alredy 20 + its so tough to lvl by my self or even duo, just wishing there was more of a freedom with this like regular servers have, then u have all these exemptions running around that box anyways infront of u and its really not fair, yea im sure they have people who actually play those accounts alot or somtimes, but they ahve the ability to log that char in for buffs, and stuff whenever they need to, rez etc, i wish i could do that..

Distance 11-03-2009 07:57 AM

I think the pros outweigh the cons honestly, at least for two per account. I agree allowing more would become rampant anti-social wasteland; ex. "The Grand Creation", where six-boxing reigns king. I think a reasonable suggestion would be to open a poll and take a new reading of the community. If it is any indication of the interest this thread went to three pages overnight on a dry forum.

I think the general consensus in this thread was that ultimately it ought to be allowed as the spread of levels will be more noticeable and difficult on new players. Perhaps that time is now? Not everyone can mage group/rez bug/exploit their way to 50. Not everyone has time to find groups. Not everyone is the same level, etc.

As it stands people simply apply and get exemptions and stealthily play their "wife's" character. I'm not naive enough to think it doesn't happen, I also don't believe they have the staff to monitor it, nor should they. It has been pointed out there are better areas to devote resources to.

Linkdeath'ing to buff, blatant sharing of accounts, etc. it's all common practice, especially on emulated servers. For example, Shards of Dalaya's top guild all share passwords. It was common to have one person log 5 guild characters to completely buff new characters. But I'm getting off the subject -- my point is this: It's going to happen regardless.

I think the most sound argument was that if a dual-boxer chooses to group with the same class then they get something done they would not have otherwise, nobody is compromised if they choose to simply stick to themselves. Nobody is going to magically change their playstyle, people who want to solo will solo. I see tons of people seeking groups that would be enabled to at least kill something and venture into empty zones. If this were a live server with a larger population that scene would be different.

Keebs 11-03-2009 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Distance (Post 2311)
I think the pros outweigh the cons honestly, at least for two per account. I agree allowing more would become rampant anti-social wasteland; ex. "The Grand Creation", where six-boxing reigns king. I think a reasonable suggestion would be to open a poll and take a new reading of the community. If it is any indication of the interest this thread went to three pages overnight on a dry forum.

I think the general consensus in this thread was that ultimately it ought to be allowed as the spread of levels will be more noticeable and difficult on new players. Perhaps that time is now? Not everyone can mage group/rez bug/exploit their way to 50. Not everyone has time to find groups. Not everyone is the same level, etc.

As it stands people simply apply and get exemptions and stealthily play their "wife's" character. I'm not naive enough to think it doesn't happen, I also don't believe they have the staff to monitor it, nor should they. It has been pointed out there are better areas to devote resources to.

Linkdeath'ing to buff, blatant sharing of accounts, etc. it's all common practice, especially on emulated servers. For example, Shards of Dalaya's top guild all share passwords. It was common to have one person log 5 guild characters to completely buff new characters. But I'm getting off the subject -- my point is this: It's going to happen regardless.

I think the most sound argument was that if a dual-boxer chooses to group with the same class then they get something done they would not have otherwise, nobody is compromised if they choose to simply stick to themselves. Nobody is going to magically change their playstyle, people who want to solo will solo. I see tons of people seeking groups that would be enabled to at least kill something and venture into empty zones. If this were a live server with a larger population that scene would be different.

/agree

lindz 11-03-2009 12:45 PM

250 - 300 players is all well and good for US prime time but during EU prime time we're only seeing numbers of about 125. I don't often play during daytime hours, but I do wonder how the EU players are finding grouping.

Somekid123 11-03-2009 01:45 PM

Im outta here along with the other 20ish people that came along if boxing comes into play, and im sure a lot of the community will do the same.

President 11-03-2009 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Somekid123 (Post 2350)
Im outta here along with the other 20ish people that came along if boxing comes into play, and im sure a lot of the community will do the same.


Felt like I was the only one...

Derazor 11-03-2009 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Somekid123 (Post 2350)
Im outta here along with the other 20ish people that came along if boxing comes into play, and im sure a lot of the community will do the same.

Like a kid being sent to start in shoots and ladders - the infamous "I quit!" defense.

Because - all those boxers on live had such a negative impact on you.

1/3rd of the population might box, which would be cool to bring our regular active base of 300 to 400. But.

RAGEQUIT FOR THE WIN!! That is true to classic.

entilza 11-03-2009 02:43 PM

The way it is now is great, each character you meet is a real person! People are communicating to get groups it's very nice to see.


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